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Wouldnt Jerry Rice be a better analogy? The guy admitted he cheated and could have cheated on every play of his career. He is considered the GOAT and his team won 3 SBS and help create the Joe Montana legacy. Forget all the other cheaters for a moment.

Why does he and that entirely bogus situation get a completely free pass while this is turned into this mess and obvious witch hunt. We have proof TB used regulation balls and performed with them.

The double standards in this country are sickening.
 
Yeah, his examples are extreme and ridiculous.

Those pariahs became so after exhaustive investigations and defintive proof (and still, being the guy I am, I feel like they got short-shafted as their respective sports tried to pretend everything else was kosher).

To attack a man's character as is being done, you really need better evidence than what was presented. Much better. Florio's been the best since the report came out, by the way.
 
The big, BIG difference is that in our case TB12 is not lying.

I am just curious, understand I think TB12 is the GOAT, what is Tom Brady not lying about, in your opinion, since you made that statement? Second curious question is how do you know this about our GOAT TB12, what proof do you have? Thanks
 
Wouldnt Jerry Rice be a better analogy? The guy admitted he cheated and could have cheated on every play of his career. He is considered the GOAT and his team won 3 SBS and help create the Joe Montana legacy. Forget all the other cheaters for a moment.

Why does he and that entirely bogus situation get a completely free pass while this is turned into this mess and obvious witch hunt. We have proof TB used regulation balls and performed with them.

The double standards in this country are sickening.

How do you know about double standards in this country, you can't even read english?
 
How do you know about double standards in this country, you can't even read english?
You should capitalize English.

Also, did you change your Depends yet?
 
I was actually thinking about this today and came to this conclusion: This is sports. Its entertainment and should be treated as such. You don't need to be a paragon of objectivity. If I were truly objective I would say that all of this is a waste of my time, and any one devoting their time to reporting on it basically adds little to nothing to our society.

I understand the anger from Pats fans, but what baffles me is the anger expressed by opposing fans.

What do they have to be angry about? Think about it....
 
I never looked at the evidence in those cases, so it's similar in that way.
 
I understand the anger from Pats fans, but what baffles me is the anger expressed by opposing fans.

What do they have to be angry about? Think about it....
"THA INTEGRUDDY UV DA GAME!!!!" stupid Cheatriots fan wouldn't know anything about it!
 
You should capitalize English.

Also, did you change your Depends yet?

Why don't we take our dislikes of each other elsewhere I don't like dealing with stupidity and this could last forever as I don't see you getting any smarter. so for the sake of this forum hit Ignore.
 
Why don't we take our dislikes of each other elsewhere I don't like dealing with stupidity and this could last forever as I don't see you getting any smarter. so for the sake of this forum hit Ignore.
Well we could meet in person, but I doubt that would go well for you. For someone who does not like stupidity you certainly seem to be involved in quite a bit of it.

Also, I dont see it lasting forever. You just seem to be repeating yourself over and over while I and other people here laugh at you. So continue to act the troll and that is how you will be treated.

Also, you calling me stupid is comical.
 
I understand the anger from Pats fans, but what baffles me is the anger expressed by opposing fans.

What do they have to be angry about? Think about it....
I hate to admit but I know what they feel. Look I've hated the Lakers over the years for a very similar reason they hate us. Sometimes, hating success is just natural.
 
I Think there is more evidence TB did not cheat than did. There is also clear cut evidence that Blandino lied, results were inconclusive, and the NFL did nothing when the Mort Report came out,

If anything the NFL cheated.

The only mention of Brady in the texts is the message to "The Deflator" via McNally that he (Brady) wants the balls closer to 12.5 and to bring the rule book and show it to the refs.

Concrete proof (by NFL standards) that Brady insisted on being within the standards set forth by the NFL.
 
I am just curious, understand I think TB12 is the GOAT, what is Tom Brady not lying about, in your opinion, since you made that statement? Second curious question is how do you know this about our GOAT TB12, what proof do you have? Thanks

Wow....where do I start?? Ok, what proof do you have that half the people in your neighborhood aren't serial killers? Do you have such proof? Aha! You might want to sleep with one eye open!

I think the burden of proof is on the accuser...not the accused!! What kind of country are we living in, anyways?? The biased fan bases and media bases associated with the other 31 NFL teams would have you believing that it's "our" (or TB's) responsibility to defend ourselves from accusations of guilt. So will we just bend over and let them get away with it?

I think the essential point here is that we Patriots fans base our assertions concerning TB's innocence on the following:
1) A 4 month long investigation, conducted by a leading legal company, that cost $5M, and resulted in a 243 page report....produced absolutely no evidence that TB directed the deflation of any footballs below the 12.5 psi standard, nor that he had any awareness that anyone else was deflating the balls below that level (on his behalf). This, despite the fact that the League Office was responsible for numerous leaks to help influence/shape the outcome they were looking for...plus the fact they never once corrected the fallacious media report that 11 of 12 balls were 2 psi under the minimum allowable level.
2) The report cited a text message that indicated at least one ball from the October 2014 Jets game measure in at 16 psi...after the game was over...and that other balls were similarly over-inflated. Does this indicate that there had been a longstanding strategy in place to deflate footballs?
3) And if you now suggest that the deflation of footballs started after that particular game, I'll cite another piece of information. Why would TB arm the ball boy (McNally) with a copy of the NFL rule regarding the legal pressure for a football (12.5 - 13.5) if he was already surreptitiously ordering the deflation of footballs...or if he was planning to enact such a strategy in the future?? Why would he have called attention to himself in such a manner? And why would he even care about any particular number (i.e. 12.5, 12. 7, 13, 13.2, 13.5) if his real intent was to deflate balls well below that amount?
4) TB's longstanding and demonstrated behavior, integrity, sportsmanship, attitude, courage, etc. means a lot more than the obviously biased witch hunt (Wells Report) and the knee-jerk media opinions (from Chris Mortenson's initial lie to the present day).
 
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Well we could meet in person, but I doubt that would go well for you. For someone who does not like stupidity you certainly seem to be involved in quite a bit of it.

Also, I dont see it lasting forever. You just seem to be repeating yourself over and over while I and other people here laugh at you. So continue to act the troll and that is how you will be treated.

Also, you calling me stupid is comical.

When can you get it into your head you are "dead to me." I never called you stupid that would be too generous. I am laughing at you, the big muscle guy on the net, hiding behind your keyboard. I am 80 years old, a Pats fan since 1960, that's 55 years of loving the Pats, season ticket holder for 8 straigh years before I moved, never missed a Pats game in 55 years. I am sure tough guy you could kick my ass, physically, but as you have demonstrared today not through smarts. Goodbye
 
here is my take. even if brady really did it, i don't really care. players do all kinds of thing. my big beef is that where was the warning? ah that's right. there didn't want to warn brady & pats.
 
Wow....where do I start?? Ok, what proof do you have that half the people in your neighborhood aren't serial killers? Do you have such proof? Aha! You might want to sleep with one eye open!

I think the burden of proof is on the accuser...not the accused!! What kind of country are we living in, anyways?? The biased fan bases and media bases associated with the other 31 NFL teams would have you believing that it's "our" (or TB's) responsibility to defend ourselves from accusations of guilt. So will we just bend over and let them get away with it?

I think the essential point here is that we Patriots fans base our assertions concerning TB's innocence on the following:
1) A 4 month long investigation, conducted by a leading legal company, that cost $5M, and resulted in a 243 page report....produced absolutely no evidence that TB directed the deflation of any footballs below the 12.5 psi standard, nor that he had any awareness that anyone else was deflating he balls below that level )on his behalf). This, despite the fact that the League Office was responsible for numerous leaks to help influence/shape the outcome they were looking for...plus the fact they never once corrected the fallacious media report that 11 of 12 balls were 2 psi under the minimum allowable level.
2) The report cited a text message that indicated at least one ball from the October 2014 Jets game measure in at 16 psi...after the game was over...and that other balls were similarly over-inflated. Does this indicate that there had been a longstanding strategy in place to deflate footballs?
3) And if you now suggest that the deflation of footballs started after that particular game, I'll cite another piece of information. Why would TB arm the ball boy (McNally) with a copy of the NFL rule regarding the legal pressure for a football (12.5 - 13.5) if he was already surreptitiously ordering the deflation of footballs...or if he was planning to enact such a strategy in the future?? Why would he have called attention to himself in such a manner? And why would he even care about any particular number (i.e. 12.5, 12. 7, 13, 13.2, 13.5) if his real intent was to deflate balls well below that amount?
4) TB's longstanding and demonstrated behavior, integrity, sportsmanship, attitude, courage, etc. means a lot more than the obviously biased witch hunt (Wells Report) and the knee-jerk media opinions (from Chris Mortenson's initial lie to the present day).

WOW, I am sorry, can you answer my questions, it's a simple process at least I think it is. BTW I didn't bother reading this reply because I could see from the start you can't justify your position. I love Brady but I am not sucked into he is always right amd not without quilt. This is my team forever regardless of who fu** it up. So please answer the questions or don't make the statements.
 
When can you get it into your head you are "dead to me." I never called you stupid that would be too generous. I am laughing at you, the big muscle guy on the net, hiding behind your keyboard. I am 80 years old, a Pats fan since 1960, that's 55 years of loving the Pats, season ticket holder for 8 straigh years before I moved, never missed a Pats game in 55 years. I am sure tough guy you could kick my ass, physically, but as you have demonstrared today not through smarts. Goodbye
Sounds like the only thing in anyone's head is me into yours. You keep promising to ignore me but cant. What's a matter sweetie? No luck last night at the hospice center?

Also, looking at your posts I dont think YOU should be calling out anyone in the "smarts" department. Also, nobody cares how long you have been a Patriots fan. We can about your posting content which has been conveniently quite trollish and rude.
 
Just another example of people going ridiculously overboard. Obviously those people are worse than Hitler :)
 
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