Tom Brady's Salem State speech...

Seanzayyy said:

O'hara (and I'm paraphrasing here): "After watching Tom answer those questions, you can see how genuine he is. It's hard to watch that [the Salem State interview about the investigation] and say you hate Tom Brady. "

He continued later, "there's a lot of circumstantial evidence... Tom already came out and made a statement regarding what happened, he doesn't need to come out and do it again"

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My take from Salem tonight, after a frienD asked me on Facebook what had been discussed:

Nothing really earth shattering. The interviewer tried to get a response on deflate-crap but Brady said he hasn't had a chance to read the Wells report. From there topics included leadership, relating to much younger teammates, Malcolm Butler and the super bowl truck, life with Belichick, life with Gisele and the Brazilian language. Even how he feels when people call him the best ever (he'd rather hear the criticisms). To me he came across as an optimistic, hard working, modest and sincere leader; you walk out saying "there's no way that guy's a cheater." To me, all he has accomplished is a reflection of his attitude, and you can't fake that. He's an inspirational presence and eXample. Of course, I'm a Patriots fan. The detractors, fanned by an envious New York based national entertainment media, will see nothing but rehearsed and insincere affectation. One thing I thought was cool was he said that, after football, he'd like to visit a lot of gyms full of kids and teach them about healthy choices in their lives.

**** felger, no right minded fan listens to him n mazz hate on the Pats.

Now that I have screwed up my place in this thread...don't listen to douche n squeaky!

woolster22 said:

**** felger, no right minded fan listens to him n mazz hate on the Pats.

Now that I have screwed up my place in this thread...don't listen to douche n squeaky!

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I have them on in the background just to laugh at them mostly. Today, Felger said something about "that's something you'd see on Patsfans.com. So he must be trolling here. Has to be.

Ironic that Brady is up on a stage asked to defend his integrity in the infamous witch-hunting town of Salem Mass, and there are many parallels. The so-called witches of Salem were singled out by a group of attention-seeking children with overactive imaginations who blamed their screaming and crying fits on the evil accused (Tom Brady). The "children" in this case are the media, the Colts, John Harbough, crybaby loser fans of other teams, etc. The "judge" in this case, Roger Goodell, like John Hawthorne from the Salem trials, is apparently too stupid to see through all this drama and BS. He'll will get what he deserves. Most witch hunters eventually get burned at the stake themselves - It's an occupational hazard.

FrodoBagginz said:

Russia could declare war on the U.S. right now and Deflate-Gate would still be the main story on national news.

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Actually, we have had war declared on us, and Framegate is still the top story

I'm in a very zen mood today. Very "let it be, we'll see what the league comes down with."

Chris Matthews, never one of my favorite MSN guys (and I like MSN), has been an enormous jackass on this subject, passing around two footballs to guests and asking if they can tell the difference by the feel. He's been shouting like a JEST fan at a bar all week about it. Feh.

Saw the first few questions at Salem, and I have to say, it came through clearly he was supposed to say nothing and that came out clearly... when he asked the audience "what do you think?" and got the predictable response, then was asked again directly and he responded "I didn't say that, I asked them what they think," the objective part of me said "okay that plays into the narrative of 'Tom's hiding something.' "

My point here isn't "OMG I hate Tom now!" It's more that in that moment, an audience tactic turned on him with a simple repetition of the question. (The audience didn't turn on him, the messaging did.)

After the interviewer said "well, I tried," my coverage cut out to something else here in Virginia.

Now watch the NFL publicly leak punishment possibilities for 3 months before announcing an enormous punishment, then publicly litigate the reduction of the punishment... while the media narrative becomes "So "more probably than not" being "generally aware" of a rules infraction is worse than wife-beating on camera?"

I'm already starting to see the media cycle turn to "what's Goodell to do now... he's got a real problem with inconsistent punishments.... etc."

woolster22 said:

**** felger, no right minded fan listens to him n mazz hate on the Pats.

Now that I have screwed up my place in this thread...don't listen to douche n squeaky!

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You realize that both of them are radio PERSONALITIES right? They're trolls and they do that because people up there are dumb enough to look for reasons to be outraged and listen to them so they can earn a living. You and everyone that listens to them and then reports back on this forum about what they say are buying it hook, line, and sinker. Meanwhile, both of them are laughing all the day to the bank.

ViperGTS said:

I have them on in the background just to laugh at them mostly.

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I guarantee they're laughing too, all the way to the bank.

ausbacker said:

Brady has astute legal minds around him. What onus is on him to respond? Because he's the one who has had the hatchet taken to him? If he misrepresents himself in speech, the media would contort and contrive all sorts of plots. It's not like we haven't already seen this despite his prior statements (as you point out).

In my mind, Brady is doing the smart, professional thing by allowing his team to consider, formulate and respond on his behalf publicly. There is no reason for ambiguity. Set your strategy and let the smart people around you go to work.

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Yea, I'm getting migraines listening to these media personalities open that hole in their face and be like "he needs to address this RIGHT NOW" lol...

How brain dead and savage are these people for real... Wells and his team spend FOUR STRAIGHT MONTHS for tens of millions of dollars creating this hatchet job of a report to destroy Brady and the media whores, less than 24 hours after this 260+ page report comes out are like "Omg answer every question we have immediately and address everything that was said in the report!!!"

It's been said multiple times but really just keeps needing to be re-emphasized at just how insulting A) the report is and B) the media's coverage of this so far has been to the human intelligence.

Michael Silver on NFL Network practically had a boner while he was going on and on about "overwhelming evidence" etc. . It's just sickening.. and that ***** Judy Battista being like "this could very well ruin Tom Brady's legacy.. blah blah blah I'm a filthy media whore blah blah"

Truly despicable, all of these people. I honestly don't know how you could in good conscious do that for a living.. journalists are suppose to gather information and report that information, not go off the chain and run wild with hyperbole and catchy headlines to form the readers opinion for them.


Just truly disgusting behavior by so many in the media right now, and obviously those animals in the NFL front office that made this all happen.

First, this whole thing is stupid. Nothing but conjecture and more importantly, most likely does nothing to change the game. Just a personal preference. Each QB has their preference.

With that said, Brady needs to defend himself. Right now, he is coming off guiltier than he is. Don't hold back, show some damn emotion and tell the people how stupid and ridiculous this is.

Danny said:

TFB and his circle of people are too smart to leave themselves exposed, especially for this long. They've got something, whether it be the testimony that they say was left out by Wells or some other information no one has talked about. I also really can't see Tom, the ultimate team player, lying to his teammates over something like this.

Trust Tom.

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It hasn't been long though.. its been less than 48 hours since the release of this report that a team of lawyers spent 4 straight months putting together.

To expect a clear and concise response from Brady's camp to that 260+ page report that took 4 months to craft, after only 48 hours is nothing short of lunacy... which happens to be what the media eats for breakfast, lunch and dinner is heaping bowls of lunacy.

The way the entire "investigation" ran was to come to a desired conclusion from the get go.. assuming guilt and then finding evidence to support that theory while omitting anything that didn't help paint that picture.

You have media s**theads saying things like "we can't give Brady benefit of doubt, he needs to come clean!"
Are you serious!?!? This guy has been as straight an arrow as they come for over 15 years in the league, is a class act and a pillar of his community..so this idea that you can't give someone like that the benefit of doubt in the face of ACCUSATIONS, not facts, as if he's an ex con or something is so f***ing unbelievably irresponsible and flat out nefarious.

All over some PSI missing from footballs!! Lol... you can't make this stuff up. . They're making him look worse than Ray Rice who knocked his fiance out with a viscous right hook to the head that would have dropped most grown men..

You could write a sociology thesis on the media and it's relationship with society in today's world just off of this one story. I need to better articulate what I'm trying to say in a long, well worded post at some point instead of on my phone, because it's important for people to be aware of what is actually happening right now and how devious the main stream media can be, and how much it influences the general population's mindset... its truly disturbing

It feels like the calm before the storm.

One thing I know, I wouldn't want to have to fight Tom in litigation. He is going to come prepared and he is going to fight to win. It's what he does.

TheFlyingWedge said:

Ironic that Brady is up on a stage asked to defend his integrity in the infamous witch-hunting town of Salem Mass, and there are many parallels. The so-called witches of Salem were singled out by a group of attention-seeking children with overactive imaginations who blamed their screaming and crying fits on the evil accused (Tom Brady). The "children" in this case are the media, the Colts, John Harbough, crybaby loser fans of other teams, etc. The "judge" in this case, Roger Goodell, like John Hawthorne from the Salem trials, is apparently too stupid to see through all this drama and BS. He'll will get what he deserves. Most witch hunters eventually get burned at the stake themselves - It's an occupational hazard.

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It's even worse. The people who kicked off the burning of witches in Salem in 1692 were the Good[ell]win family!!!

BradyFTW! said:

Holy ****, what ****** asylum did CNN get these clowns from? Those were the first few minutes of CNN I've watched in years... and the last few.

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One of my wife's doctors office waiting rooms has the largest boob tube that I've ever seen and it's tuned to CNN non-stop whenever we go there. There's also a pretty large sign asking people not to touch the tv. Apparently, I'm not the only one who wants to shut it off.

I remember when we didn't win squat, when every big game that we needed to win would be a loss, and even when we did win if we needed help from another team it never came. We didn't win a thing and they loved us all, the team and the fans.

Now, we win, they cry, and we laugh in their faces and win again. I prefer the way it is now, by a country mile.

Btw, I think we should all take the lead of Tom Sr and call this fiasco Framegate.