Brady vs. Rodgers: Case closed for now?

Most football fans outside New England would probably say the top 2 QBs in the NFL are Rodgers and Brady at 1A and 1B. Heck, I probably would have said the same this year. Rodgers is unbelievable...most of the time.

I thought about it. Vs. the same defense, Rodgers got his butt kicked twice. He only put 22 points on the board when his team delivered him 5 turnovers. Rodgers has a better OL and IMO supporting cast (definitely WR).

Why wasn't Rodgers tearing them apart with Nelson/Cobb/Adams in man coverage while Brady could do it mostly with Edelman/Gronk/Amendola? A calf injury doesn't explain that. Rodgers also had all day to throw.

So, Rodgers overrated, better gameplan by McDaniels, or is Edelman just very underrated compared to consensus top WRs like Nelson/Cobb?

EDIT: Thread is about who is better present day. Of course career is no contest.

Rogers was playing with a torn calf muscle.

Brady is a great QB, the greatest QB of all time. But, we have to be realistic. Rogers is able to do things that Brady is just physically incapable of doing. If Rogers was healthy for that game, the Packers win, and possibly win big. The guy has a cannon for an arm, a quick release, is accurate on the run, and can run with the ball.

IMO, they are both the best in the game today. If I'll have to rank them in some way I would say:
1a. Brady
1b. Rodgers

TBH, I think that these two QB's are the only ones what I would trust to deliver down 10 in the SB. Rodgers is absolutely phenomenal, no way in hell he is overrated. But overall? I would take Brady anyday anytime no matter what. No second guessing. Though I think its rather unfair towards Brady, Rodgers have the mobility that Brady does not (relatively). Plus, he's younger than him.

I'll preface this by saying that (in my opinion, anyway) Brady is the best QB currently in the game, and the best of all time at his position. Rodgers is a fantastic talent in his own right and has a bright future. To me, they're clearly the top two in the game and no one else is really that close.

I wouldn't discount the disparity in coaching. McCarthy's inexplicably conservative calls were a huge reason GB lost the NFCCG. And for all the grief McDaniels has gotten over the years, his gameplan against Seattle was masterful.

Rodgers playoff results are not close to Brady's. Outside of one season when they won it the packets have not fared well at all in the playoffs.

Rodgers might be better throwing the ball and making plays but all-time he will never be better.

In 7 years as a starter
6-5 in the playoffs (4 of those wins in '10)
1 SB
3 one-and-dones
Only 2 NFCCG appearances.

While Rodgers is arguably one the best QBs playing today, something about him rubs me the wrong way. The best comment I've heard is "he's cutler but he wins." And that's coming from someone from Wisconsin.

No way would Brady have lost that NFCCG. As Peyton taught us, there is a lot more to being a quarterback than just delivering the ball. Time will tell.

Also, Edelman is definitely underrated. He has the ring to prove it.

Rogers only drawback is that he does not have Bill as his coach

I don't know man, Rodgers is still a bad man....

Rodgers may be the most talented guy to ever take a snap, but if he ever wants to be in Brady's all-time company, he needs to do a lot more winnin'.

Rodgers is an amazing QB. Career vs career Brady clearly blows him out of the water. If you need a QB in the 4th qtr of a SB you take Brady in that situation as well too. I don't particularly blame him for the NFCCG as the playcalling stunk.

With that said AR has a few more top-level years left in him..

just ask this question - you got 90 sec left and needs to score 7. who would you want? it's brady over everybody else.

if you just look at the 'throwing ability' then brady might not even be the top 5 all time. brady isn't the biggest. not the strongest. not the fastest. and we all know brady doesn't have the greatest deep ball. hell if you watch brett favre on a good day, he makes your jaw drop. but football isn't about the eye test. rodgers passed eye test and he is more 'talented' than brady. outside of Favre, elway, and few others, rodgers will out 'talent' all of them.

but IMO, brady is the smartest and fiercest of them all.
and the intangibles you can't measure.
brady is above 'talent'. i'm not saying brady isn't talented. but he does more than what God gave him.

"the guy that wins more super bowls" is an over simplified analysis. We need not go through the litany of mediocre QBs that have won one or multiple SBs and the great QBs that have won one or none to prove that point. Rodgers was hamstrung by a torn calf and, much more than that, by a neutered coach/playcaller. Put Brady with that sorry crew and Rodgers with BB and McDaniels and I promise you, you will get different results. Both are great. Fun to talk about, but there's no real "right" answer to "who's better?"

Rodgers is a hell of a QB. He has not been impressive in the post-season thus far. Keep in mind he's only 6 years behind Brady in terms of time. Since he rotted behind Favre, I think people forget he's 31.

I like Brady
I like Rodgers

both are good players and good people. After <insert Patrios QB>, Rodgers is by far the best one

any discussion about who is the best qb in the league today has to go something like this

The Qb you want when the game is on the line, or in the playoffs
1.)Brady

Regular season stat whores

Rodgers or Peyton(up til the bye week)

everyone else.

It's not even a discussion at this point, Brady wins more with less. and WINS are what matter, not absurd touchdown numbers, or 6k yards throwing, but Wins.

chasa said:

any discussion about who is the best qb in the league today has to go something like this

The Qb you want when the game is on the line, or in the playoffs
1.)Brady

Regular season stat whores

Rodgers or Peyton(up til the bye week)

everyone else.

It's not even a discussion at this point, Brady wins more with less. and WINS are what matter, not absurd touchdown numbers, or 6k yards throwing, but Wins.

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I think it's worth mentioning that Brady also routinely puts up mind blowing stats.

It's not one thing that supports Brady being the best. It's all of the things.

Seems to me there are two separate discussions here:

One. When we consider all QB's in the history of the NFL, which is better?

That's not really even a discussion. The reasonable chatter centers on Brady and Montana and possibly Unitas as sort of a Mount Rushmore of two or three. P. Manning is still mentioned because he is still playing and is an ubiquitous presence in the media, but the talk of his "all time greatness" will fade, just it has for Marino, with time. Until Rodgers brings home the hardware a couple of more times, that discussion is silly.

Two. Which of these two, in the course of a 16--19 week season you would rather have on the field in 2015?

I think that you can have a reasonable discussion about that. To me the answer is clear; it's Brady, but I could see someone saying that they'd rather put their money on the younger guy, who just won the League MVP and nearly knocked off the Seahawks in Seattle playing at about 70%.

I have two criticisms of Rodgers. One much like Steve McNair and Ben Rapelessberger he wants you to know he's hurt and plays it up IMO. Two he'll take a sack vs throwing the ball away to save his QBR again IMO. People can feel free to say they don't see it because they're both perceptions I cannot quantify.

Other than that if we are going by peak performance in their prime he's an all time great.