The Official Pats Ravens AFCCG Post Game Thread

patsinthesnow said:

This is not a troll comment, just bringing up a point how the new age "dual threat" QB may be true.

Wilson/RGIII/Kaepernick score atleast 2 rushing touchdowns where we were down in the redzone.

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Regular season we had the no1 red zone team...

We should all jump on that waggon. Screw getting a murdered a trophy and that bigmouth suggs. Go 9ers. I think they win anyways

I love Tom Brady but he's gone soft. When you can't suck it up and run 5 yards for a wide open first down in crunch time then your heart isn't in it. This was the AFCCG, if you can't sacrifice your body now then when? He doesn't have to be a running QB, but for christ sakes take one for the team when its right there.

the Welker drop not with standing.. The patriots are a finesse team and faced with a more dominant foe..well. Trust me I've been a Pats fan for many many years but i can only deny So LONG the fact deep down WE'RE SOFT. I'll need to lower my expectations

sambam94 said:

was Ridley down before the ball came loose?..Looked like his leg was stretched out and on the ground before the ball came out No mention by the announcers..anyone TIVO this?

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I played it back 5 times. His butt was still up when the ball came loose. It was a nasty head shot by Polard and Ridley was out cold for 10 seconds or so.

Re: After Talib went down, and Arrington took over, Patriots were done..

Marqui said:

That shouldn't be a problem since they have Ninkovich.

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Dude, your jihad against Ninkovich is really pathetic.

sambam94 said:

was Ridley down before the ball came loose?..Looked like his leg was stretched out and on the ground before the ball came out No mention by the announcers..anyone TIVO this?

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I played it back 5 times. His butt was still up when the ball came loose. It was a nasty head shot by Polard and Ridley was out cold for 10 seconds or so.:bricks:

Re: Drop Welker

crypto said:

well this is the worst overreaction so far. the solution is to pick up better deep threats, not to drop the best slot receiver in the league

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Bingo. Pats again go dink and dunk and its their undoing. Tired tune.

Josh thought Lloyd was the answer, and basically he is Deion Branch with less reliability but some mor highlight reels. Welker isn't the problem...problem is no deep threat or at least a big reliable target who can win jump balls. Gronk would have helped open up the field, but again the main problem is not having a traditional #1 wideout.

Re: Drop Welker

crypto said:

well this is the worst overreaction so far. the solution is to pick up better deep threats, not to drop the best slot receiver in the league

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he's so good he dropped 2 critical passes. one because he is too short and the second because he hands turned to stone on a easy pass.

Re: Patriots got BULLIED again.

Brady was a damn deer in the headlights again. Game was over when he was too scared to run 4 wide open yards.

Wow, y'all are being harsh on Welker. Last year he messed up big yes but he took an absolute beating today. The drops hurt but he was still our top producer despite all the hits. Give Baltimore credit they basically beat us up into submission. And Flacco played unbelievable maybe the best postseason for a QB to date as much as it kills me to say.

Re: Two questions

crypto said:

1. What was the crowd cheering toward the end? It sounded like I was watching a futbol game.

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That was the *****ing Raven fans.

Re: After Talib went down, and Arrington took over, Patriots were done..

The Beast said:

It wasn't Arrington, it was Cole who was the problem. Every time the Ravens had a big play in the second half I looked up and saw no. 23 Cole. I thought Arrington actually played reasonably adequate in Talib's place.

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The point is, without a good CB, secondary is not good. Cole, and Arrington are below-average CBs. How do you expect our CBs covering WRs that are fast and can jump-ball?

The other half of the problem is our DL could not pressure Flacco much during the 2nd half. Given that time, our secondary is exposed.

The defense was about as one could expect. No luck in takeaways; an injury that was bad from a matchup standpoint -- it happens.

But the offense was pathetic. The TOs were unlucky, but it's not as if they took a lot of would-have-been points off the board.

This game wasnt meant to be. Lots of things have to go wrong for this team not to competitive and that's what happened. I felt it the moment Welker drops an easy one - to paraphrase the refs from last years SB referees "that's the ball game right there".
We have had a good season. Cant be too down on your team that goes deep into the playoffs every year.

Ugly performance in the 2nd half, the 3rd quarter especially. Bad coaching on both sides, why not try to wear down Baltimore with two te sets and run the ball, they were picking up a good 4/5 ypc. I have no idea why this team just gets tight at times and plays not to lose instead of playing to win. Also Flacco having all the time in the world to throw was just frustrating to watch, why not change up scheme and put some pressure on him, instead of just staying so basic on D? This team needs to stop playing so tight at times and stop just playing not to lose and start playing to win games.

I'm not even mad at this point. Just disappointed and that's not a good sign. I will look back on this season and call it a mild success. But the problem is, I'm getting used to playoff disappointment. The same thing seems to happen now year after year and in this order:

1. The Pats fail to show up in a playoff game. They never seem to lose an extremely close game. The other team just is more physical.

2. People complain about the lack of pass rush, no real deep threat/big WR, and a porous secondary.

3. People say that Brady let the team down. That the offense failed to show up and they blew it.

4. We get over it by mid-February and look forward to the draft.


I'm just going to skip to step 4 and hope we draft a defensive talent.

"Fight on my men" Sir Andrew said
Little I'm hurt, but not yet slain
I'll just lie down and bleed awhile
And then I'll rise and fight again

Let's win it all in New York next season boys! Go Pats!

Re: Drop Welker

crypto said:

well this is the worst overreaction so far. the solution is to pick up better deep threats, not to drop the best slot receiver in the league

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Yup, I hear you man, but it's that sort of sympathy that's keeping them from championships. Unless they resign him for a considerable bargain we need to let him go. Welker drops big passes, the Superbowl I was willing to call a coincidence, but now it's just Wes Welker doing his drop thing. Woodhead would be fine in the slot, and has the speed to make something out of those easy catches. Doing what Welker does, just isn't that hard, and he is too short. If you're going to be a slow short receiver you can't also be a dropper. I don't see it any other way. He'd be great on a non-playoff team, somewhere like Cleveland maybe.

Re: After Talib went down, and Arrington took over, Patriots were done..

Sign talib

Judging from a couple of the thread titles, this place is insane. So....

Goodnight all. I'll chat with some of you soon, be it tomorrow or some day after that.