The Official Pats at Ravens Post Game Thread

Rob0729 said:

He had three noticeable bad plays in my eyes:

- The second dropped INT
- the nmissed tackle which was more Gregory's fault
- the PI in the end

The rest of the night he was solid. You can argue that when he was bad, he was really bad. But he was mostly solid. The first dropped INT was a great play by McCourty that was broken up by the receiver.

Arrington was far worse with getting burnt multiple times and falling down on what would have been a game winning INT. Yet, people aren't trashing him.

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Bobs My Uncle said:

This doesn't make any sense.

Arrington, McCourty, Nink and Chung are veterans with ample experience in this system. What are they going to get more proficient at? Sucking when the chips are down!

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Deus Irae said:

Serious question here to the people who like to say things like "The refs suck, but....."


How do you expect a sports team to overcome bad officiating when it's involving game and possession changing calls?

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coolguy said:

The patriots somewhat did to themselves with the first half roughhousing.

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neuronet said:

1- why can't our offense close out a game and run a few freaking minutes off a clock in clutch games?
2- why did they try that freaking stunt play *again* on offense?
3- why was woodhead in so much?
4- can we really do no better than arrington?
5- why does our defense look like a sieve when we need them most?

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Deus Irae said:

That's a load of crap.

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KontradictioN said:

I'll be the first to admit that the refs were horrible. But anybody that says that the Pats didn't do enough to lose that game by themselves is simply in denial. How many times did Flacco loft it up tonight to have a wide open receiver run under the ball? You even said yourself in the other thread, and this one, that McCourty and Arrington are not starter quality CB's. The refs sucked and cost the team a hell of a lot in this game. There is no denying that, so you won't see me try. But if the Pats execute better on both sides of the ball, they're an afterthought. Five football fields of total offense tonight by the Ravens. Let's look at that first before we start b!tching about a crew of zebras that should have never been on the field in the first place.

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condon84 said:

All of our CBs were bad. Including McCourty.

In the most crucial part of the game, he got smoked by Jones at the LOS and, as we've seen countless number of times, he lacks the ability to look back and play the ball. He just can't do it for some reason. He's just not a good CB. He shouldn't be starting, but unfortunately, all of our CBs shouldn't be starting.

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Deus Irae said:

Yes, Bob, it does make sense. There's a reason that all but the biggest stiffs seem to get better over the course of a season. It happens with all teams, too, not just the Patriots. Familiarity allows lesser players to seem improved.

Go to a basketball court and find the team that always plays together and looks good when they do, even though none of the players seem very good on their own. Then go find those players when they try fitting in with a different team. You'll find that they often get crushed.

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coolguy said:

It's the truth...............There were no calls in the first quarter and then the flags started raining down.

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drew4008 said:

I'm sure this will just get locked... but god... McCourty has regressed so bad it isn't even funny. What a POS. Arrington is awful too.

At least we can accept that our defense is the same old terrible defense we've come to expect over the last few years... particularly in the pass game. Our corners are TERRIBLE.

I would pay the 15/mil a year Revis gets, he's worth it. I really wish we could just find a decent CB, honestly. Ty Law is a total a-hole lol, but he could PLAY, and I want that back.

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12ClutchFactor said:

I said it last week, now I am vindicated, Brady is now one of the biggest chokers in the game. Yes, yes, I know, the homers will point to games where he has come up with a drive late in the game when they are behind. The Dallas game last year for example. The real problem is that when they are already down, there's nothing to lose. And he can function. But I have never seen a quarterback fail as consistently as Brady when he has the slim lead late and just needs one solid drive to ice it.

Think back about how badly he crumbles in these big moments. Against the colts on the famous 4 and 2. Against the colts in 10 he couldn't engineer a drive to close it out, James sanders saved him with a pick though. Against the giants last year in both the regular season and the super bowl his drives sputtered giving the ball back to Eli with just enough time left. Against the colts in the 06 championship game he needed just one more first down and couldn't get it. Against the ravens last year in the title game he could not ice it, instead he threw incomplete to Hernandez which gave flacco time for that final drive that ended with a missed kick.

Then you have tonight, all Brady needed was one or two first downs. But he could not muster it. It is a definite pattern. And it has been a pattern since the acl injury. He sees phantom rushers and ducks under for no reason, or ducks under before the rusher gets there where a calmer qb who can actually operate under pressure would have side stepped. The worst part is that if that play happens during the middle of a game, Brady side steps the rush like a champ and throws a strike downfield. But when he has to protect a lead, he flounders. He's too worried about messing up a lead that is pre existing.

I don't know what the solution is except to start taking the ball out of his hands late and get a better running game. Or, you just have to try and throw non stop early and build a big lead when there is less pressure and he feels more comfortable to operate.

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Rob0729 said:

He isn't nearly as bad as you said. He is a starting quality CB, but maybe not the LCB. But did a great job vs. Smith early and Smith got most of his yards when they started matching him up to Arrington, Moore, and Dowling.

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DaBruinz said:

McCourty played excellent the entire game.

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