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Kurt Warner: "It still makes you question what was on those tapes"


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I think (so called) Patriots fans do more than anyone to keep this issue alive by making as big a deal as possible every single time someone says or does something related to the whole matter.
I agree to a point... People seem to go out of their way to find this crap and take it personally.
 
Just keep shining that ring, Patriots. :D

:rocker: Here's hoping Faulky the Bitter and Preacher Kurt NEVER get over it. :rocker:
 
Yes.... Goodell would never have brought this up again if it weren't for Patriots fans on a message board. :bricks:

DAMN them! Damn them to Hell for causing Goodell to do this!
 
you guys would be lapping this **** up and loving every second of it, if it was the jets, bills or dolphins getting scrutinized for cheating and having not been able to win a sb since then

that's a fact
 
Good. I am glad Kurt still "questions" it. I hope it keeps him awake at night and he just keeps going over and over it in his head. I hope him and Marshall talk about it, complain about it to their wives, and always look for "spying" at their children's sporting events. I hope this turns them into old(er), (even more) paranoid men(?) that take the suspision they feel from this and use it to destroy every personal relationship they have.

F*ck Kurt Warner, F*ck Marshall Faulk, and F*ck every other hater that can't get over it.
 
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That's Matt Leinert.
 
I think (so called) Patriots fans do more than anyone to keep this issue alive by making as big a deal as possible every single time someone says or does something related to the whole matter.

Trust me, 100000x more people heard Kurt say that than read this thread.
 
you guys would be lapping this **** up and loving every second of it, if it was the jets, bills or dolphins getting scrutinized for cheating and having not been able to win a sb since then

that's a fact

WRONG!!!! There are plenty of fans who agree with Patriots fans on this. Besides, how can you argue with logic? Stick around and try to make some claims about Spygate, and you'll lose.
 
And while we're at it, let's look at Kurt Warner's "HOF" career. He came into the league and went nuts one year. That year in the Super Bowl he didn't WIN the game, his D won the game by stopping Kevin Dyson. Kurt and his offense were pretty much ineffective the entire game. The following season he was whipping INT's like it was going out of style. The season after that he was good, but in the Super Bowl he looked like a boy amoung the men that was the Patriots defense. When he finally nutted up, it was too little too late. After THAT year, he had a few more crapfests with the Rams, then went to the Giants and was such a fumbling machine he was benched for Eli Manning. Then he went to the Cards, and was swapping back and forth with Matt Leinert during games until he FINALLY became the starter. Yes, he struggled taking the starting role away from Matt "Checkdown" Leinert. And finally, after getting battered again by Bill Belichick, he catches fire at the right time with one of the greatest WR corps ever seen and gets his team to the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl he throws a Pick Six at the one with about a minute left in the half.

So, Warner to Fitzgerald scored the go ahead TD in the late fourth. The camera goes to Ben Roethlisberger, who has a "Ok, let's go win this game" look on his face. The Steelers score to go ahead, and the camera goes to Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner looks like someone shot his mom while running over his dog. Kurt proceeds to fail in the waning seconds, and loses his second SB.

Would someone fill me in on how this guy is a HOF QB?
 
you guys would be lapping this **** up and loving every second of it, if it was the jets, bills or dolphins getting scrutinized for cheating and having not been able to win a sb since then

that's a fact

It wasn't cheating and your timeline of when the Patriots stopped winning superbowls is way off. They stopped winning superbowls two whole seasons before spygate. But, please, don't let the facts get in the way of your petty little nonsense.
 
you guys would be lapping this **** up and loving every second of it, if it was the jets, bills or dolphins getting scrutinized for cheating and having not been able to win a sb since then

that's a fact

Here is more facts for you. The Jets were videotaping the Patriots in the 2006 playoffs. The Patriots stopped a Jets employee from videotaping during the game but did not go crying to the league. Steve Scarnechia, who recently got into trouble for a taping incident with the Broncos, and also with the Patriots, was a Jets employee from 2005-2007. If he was taping for the Patriots and tping for the Broncos, it is probably safe to say he was taping for the Jets.

The Dolphins acquired audiotape of Brady's audibles and used them in a game to beat the Patriots 21-0 in 2006. The Dolphin players bragged about it afterward. When the Patriots complained to the league, Goodell said there was nothing wrong with it. How can he say the the Patriots videotaping defensive signals game them an unfair advantage, but excuse getting audiotapes. Sounds like a double standard to me.

One more fact. The Patriots winning percentage from 2007-2010 is better than it was from 2000-2006. They have a better record after the taping stopped.
 
I cant really blame Warner. clearly that was the most painful loss of his career- physically and emotionally. The real loser in all of this rehashing of spygate is the Green Bay Packers. This is supposed to be THEIR time. They haven't been to a superbowl in 13 years. The attention this week should be going to the players who are competing this week, instead of going back to the witch hunt well to get some cheap attention. I blame Goodell for this mess, and Goodell alone. He has turned this league into and episode of Jerry Springer. This week should be about the contributions of Rodgers, Polamalu, Matthews, and others, but instead all the attention is focused on make-believe cheating scandals and a rapist who apparently hasn't rehabilitated himself, and now its looking less likely that there will be no football at all next year. The Goodell train is firing on all cylinders!
 
And while we're at it, let's look at Kurt Warner's "HOF" career. He came into the league and went nuts one year. That year in the Super Bowl he didn't WIN the game, his D won the game by stopping Kevin Dyson. Kurt and his offense were pretty much ineffective the entire game. The following season he was whipping INT's like it was going out of style. The season after that he was good, but in the Super Bowl he looked like a boy amoung the men that was the Patriots defense. When he finally nutted up, it was too little too late. After THAT year, he had a few more crapfests with the Rams, then went to the Giants and was such a fumbling machine he was benched for Eli Manning. Then he went to the Cards, and was swapping back and forth with Matt Leinert during games until he FINALLY became the starter. Yes, he struggled taking the starting role away from Matt "Checkdown" Leinert. And finally, after getting battered again by Bill Belichick, he catches fire at the right time with one of the greatest WR corps ever seen and gets his team to the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl he throws a Pick Six at the one with about a minute left in the half.

So, Warner to Fitzgerald scored the go ahead TD in the late fourth. The camera goes to Ben Roethlisberger, who has a "Ok, let's go win this game" look on his face. The Steelers score to go ahead, and the camera goes to Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner looks like someone shot his mom while running over his dog. Kurt proceeds to fail in the waning seconds, and loses his second SB.

Would someone fill me in on how this guy is a HOF QB?

they should have you give the intro during his induction :D
 
Here is more facts for you. The Jets were videotaping the Patriots in the 2006 playoffs. The Patriots stopped a Jets employee from videotaping during the game but did not go crying to the league. Steve Scarnechia, who recently got into trouble for a taping incident with the Broncos, and also with the Patriots, was a Jets employee from 2005-2007. If he was taping for the Patriots and tping for the Broncos, it is probably safe to say he was taping for the Jets.

The Dolphins acquired audiotape of Brady's audibles and used them in a game to beat the Patriots 21-0 in 2006. The Dolphin players bragged about it afterward. When the Patriots complained to the league, Goodell said there was nothing wrong with it. How can he say the the Patriots videotaping defensive signals game them an unfair advantage, but excuse getting audiotapes. Sounds like a double standard to me.

One more fact. The Patriots winning percentage from 2007-2010 is better than it was from 2000-2006. They have a better record after the taping stopped.

Some of the original tapes were leaked on the internet in 2007, I saw footage before. It was nothing. The guys being filmed even WAVED BACK at the amateur cameraman. Videotaping sideline hand signals is STILL LEGAL even now in a dozen spots in the stadium, just not from the opposing sidelines.
"Spying" is a completely exaggerated term as well, given that hand signals are publicly viewable by everyone in the stadium, and also the TV audience often.

I am completely convinced Goodell destroyed the tapes, because revealing them would show how biased and un-objective his punishment was. I also remember the Patriots, Kraft, Belichick were barred from saying anything after the tapes were destroyed, giving them zero chance of telling their side of the story.
 
And while we're at it, let's look at Kurt Warner's "HOF" career. He came into the league and went nuts one year. That year in the Super Bowl he didn't WIN the game, his D won the game by stopping Kevin Dyson. Kurt and his offense were pretty much ineffective the entire game. The following season he was whipping INT's like it was going out of style. The season after that he was good, but in the Super Bowl he looked like a boy amoung the men that was the Patriots defense. When he finally nutted up, it was too little too late. After THAT year, he had a few more crapfests with the Rams, then went to the Giants and was such a fumbling machine he was benched for Eli Manning. Then he went to the Cards, and was swapping back and forth with Matt Leinert during games until he FINALLY became the starter. Yes, he struggled taking the starting role away from Matt "Checkdown" Leinert. And finally, after getting battered again by Bill Belichick, he catches fire at the right time with one of the greatest WR corps ever seen and gets his team to the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl he throws a Pick Six at the one with about a minute left in the half.

So, Warner to Fitzgerald scored the go ahead TD in the late fourth. The camera goes to Ben Roethlisberger, who has a "Ok, let's go win this game" look on his face. The Steelers score to go ahead, and the camera goes to Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner looks like someone shot his mom while running over his dog. Kurt proceeds to fail in the waning seconds, and loses his second SB.

Would someone fill me in on how this guy is a HOF QB?

Warner owns the three most prolific passing games in Super Bowl history. This puts him in front of everyone for total SB passing yards.

In his last Super Bowl run, he threw for over 1100 yards in the postseason along with a measly 9 touches.

He is either 1 or 2 in career completion percentage and #1 in career yards per game.

I don't particularly like the guy, but he put together a handful of really great regular seasons, probably only eclipsed by 2 men: Brady and Manning since he did it back about 10 years ago. Thats great company to be in.

I don't see how you hold the Pitt loss against him. He was on the sidelines. He was also on the sideline 9 years and 1 day ago in New Orleans.

He has really great post season performances ten years apart. That is something I don't think anyone else can claim.
 
I am completely convinced Goodell destroyed the tapes, because revealing them would show how biased and un-objective his punishment was. I also remember the Patriots, Kraft, Belichick were barred from saying anything after the tapes were destroyed, giving them zero chance of telling their side of the story.

Would it have been so difficult for Goodell to put the tapes in a safe and not give out the combo to anyone? That would have permanently locked them up and stopped any leaks, but this is only one of the things he did wrong on this matter.
 
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