Madden: "The hardest hit I've ever seen"

[DaBruinz]

He hit him in the chest first, then he slid up him.

If a Patriot's player had made that hit you would be talking about how he blew him up and not saying he should have been ejected.

BS. He led with his helmet and planted it right in Henry's jaw.

Sorry, Workhorse, you usually are pretty decent, but this is just pathetic.

 

[DaBruinz]

Watch it from the behind angle. His head hits him right below the chin slightly on Browns right shoulder. Watch something besides YouTube if you really want to be able to see.

Btw, I didn't read any complaints here about the hit on Reggie by Eugene Wilson.

You clearly watched a different hit because the ball carrier's name was Henry, not Brown. Also, there is no way for you to tell from the "behind angle" where it would hit as you wouldn't actually see the crown of the helmet, which is the important part.

OH, the hit by Wilson WAS the shoulder, not the helmet. Sorry that you can't tell the difference.

 

[FSUPatsFan]

One of the hardest hits I've ever seen took place in an FSU/Miami game. Stanford Samuels nails Roscoe Parrish. Here it is. Enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d4bL4ayON-A

 

[jays52]

You are either blind or an intentional f****** liar. Watch the clip; pause it if you have to. The crown of the helmet ended up square on the facemask. It wasn't close to his chest.

I respectfully disagree with you. Football 101 chapter 3 section 2: Tackling. A component of a perfect form tackle is either 1) Planting your facemask square in the breastplate of your opponent as you FIRST BEGIN TO EXPLODE THROUGH CONTACT. or 2) Hitting the ball with your helmet if the ball is exposed. The Colt's player was executing 1 to perfection and his helmet slid up through the hip explosion and ended up under the helmet. It was a perfectly executed clean form tackle.

 

[speed]

One of the hardest hits I've ever seen took place in an FSU/Miami game. Stanford Samuels nails Roscoe Parrish. Here it is. Enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d4bL4ayON-A

Nice, I started literally bracing myself for the guy on the slow mo replays, he launched him backwards, excellent.

 

[Fixit]

I respectfully disagree with you. Football 101 chapter 3 section 2: Tackling. A component of a perfect form tackle is either 1) Planting your facemask square in the breastplate of your opponent as you FIRST BEGIN TO EXPLODE THROUGH CONTACT. or 2) Hitting the ball with your helmet if the ball is exposed. The Colt's player was executing 1) to perfection and his helmet slid up through the hip explosion and ended up under the helmet. It was a perfectly executed clean form tackle.

It's not like we don't have video. The first contact was helmet-to-facemask. Even if it wasn't, he led with the crown of the helmet, which is a spear. Either way you slice it, it's a personal foul.

Also, how was he leading with his facemask when he was looking at the ground and only raised his head after the contact?

No point in arguing with someone who actually disregards what they see.

 

[workhorse]

You clearly watched a different hit because the ball carrier's name was Henry, not Brown. Also, there is no way for you to tell from the "behind angle" where it would hit as you wouldn't actually see the crown of the helmet, which is the important part.

OH, the hit by Wilson WAS the shoulder, not the helmet. Sorry that you can't tell the difference.

Oops. I knew it was Henry, but for some reason Brown popped into my head.

 

[workhorse]

Did you guys expect him to chop his head off before he tackled him so he wouldn't hit him with his helmet?

 

[jays52]

It's not like we don't have video. The first contact was helmet-to-facemask. Even if it wasn't, he led with the crown of the helmet, which is a spear. Either way you slice it, it's a personal foul.

Also, how was he leading with his facemask when he was looking at the ground and only raised his head after the contact?

No point in arguing with someone who actually disregards what they see.

Watch the slow-mo dude, facemask was where the laces of his shoulderpads would be. Not to get too chippy here, but have you played football on the defensive side of the ball? When you hit with your facemask your eyes are looking up through the top part of your vision. Your mask is on about a 45 degree angle, as you have your hips dropped and your back flat for the hit. That was no spear. The FSU clip just posted was, however a flagrant spear.

 

[Fixit]

Watch the slow-mo dude, facemask was where the laces of his shoulderpads would be. Not to get too chippy here, but have you played football on the defensive side of the ball? When you hit with your facemask your eyes are looking up through the top part of your vision. Your mask is on about a 45 degree angle, as you have your hips dropped and your back flat for the hit. That was no spear. The FSU clip just posted was, however a flagrant spear.

I watched it in slo-mo a dozen times. You can see it best on the frontal angle where he lowers his head right before the contact. It doesn't matter if I never played D before; I have eyes. How are you going to tell me that a guy's helmet is at a "45-degree angle" when everything...hips, back, helmet...is perfectly straight? Is he missing the back half of his head? If you think he's looking up, I don't know what to tell you, because you're not concerning yourself with anything as insubstantial as evidence.

They were practically the same hit, though the FSU hit was a little lower.

 

[Remix 6]

nvm posted already

 

[hambone1818]

One of the hardest hits I've ever seen took place in an FSU/Miami game. Stanford Samuels nails Roscoe Parrish. Here it is. Enjoy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d4bL4ayON-A

That's a damn good way to ensure you're drinking through straws the rest of your life. Dude's lucky he didn't paralyze himself, going in with the top of his head like that.

 

[workhorse]

Here is why I think it wasn't a penalty.

1. It was on a play where the guy getting hit was fully aware he was about to be hit. It wasn't a defenseless receiver stretched out across the middle or a QB getting blindsided.

2. It was a 290 pound lineman, not a 220 lb DB or 250 LBer. I think linemen are given a little more leeway since they aren't as "graceful".

3. People are watching slow-mo replays to argue if it was clean or dirty.

Wrap all of those together and you get what he got.

 

[Fixit]

3. People are watching slow-mo replays to argue if it was clean or dirty.

No, people who couldn't tell in real time that it was a penalty are using slo-mo to argue that it wasn't, and others are like, "You're blind."

Regardless of situation, the position the defender plays, or the fact that he's pushing 300 pounds (no offense, but silly argument) it's a personal foul.

 

[MarvLevy]

Taylor on Mormon was the best hit I ever seen. He demolished him. :rocker:

Reggie Bush got absolutely DRILLED in their home opener last season... but I forgot who it was that blasted him.

Yeah, but did you see Moorman bounce up like a cat? Dude is one bad @ss punter.

After seeing those type of hits, it amazes me that NFL players don't have guaranteed deals yet A-Rod gets 27 million for the next 10 years.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Taylor on Mormon was the best hit I ever seen. He demolished him. :rocker:

Reggie Bush got absolutely DRILLED in their home opener last season... but I forgot who it was that blasted him.

Sheldon Brown of the Eagles gave him a "welcome to the NFL " hit...
http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=6320

 

[unoriginal]

That isn't a helmet-to-helmet hit, but it is a spear. He led with the crown of his helmet. If the runner had tried to lift himself over Reid's tackle instead of falling under it, its very possible Reid could have suffered a fatal spine injury.

 

[RayClay]

Did you guys expect him to chop his head off before he tackled him so he wouldn't hit him with his helmet?

You're a pretty honorable poster and my first impression was people here had a knee jerk reaction to a clean hit.

I was wrong. Watch the first angle. Watch the first couple seconds and pause it. It couldn't be more of a textbook helmet to helmet "spearing" (if that's the right term).

Problem for you guys is, the defensive players who play like that are the ones who end up paralyzed.

You might instruct your living saint that, even if many defensive players on the Colts are deemed expendable, allowing techniques like that is morally wrong.

 

[workhorse]

No, people who couldn't tell in real time that it was a penalty are using slo-mo to argue that it wasn't, and others are like, "You're blind."

Regardless of situation, the position the defender plays, or the fact that he's pushing 300 pounds (no offense, but silly argument) it's a personal foul.

It didn't seem like anyone for the Titans was feeling that way. No one was complaining to the refs that there should have been a flag. They all just sat there watching the replays at the game with the rest of us saying "daaaaaaaaammmmn" like the rest of us at the game. And they showed quite a few replays.

My remark about a big lineman is to the effect that people view smaller players like DBs and LBers as much more in control of their bodies and their ability to be more accurate in their ability to target. I think the big guys are given a little more leeway.

 

[RayClay]

That isn't a helmet-to-helmet hit, but it is a spear. He led with the crown of his helmet. If the runner had tried to lift himself over Reid's tackle instead of falling under it, its very possible Reid could have suffered a fatal spine injury.

I defer to you on the football knowledge unoriginal since your play breakdowns were tremendous.

I still think it's both spearing and helmet to helmet based on that first angle which is clear as a bell if you can pause it at the right time.

EDIT: pause it at one second. Clear as a bell.