Patriots have filed an amicus brief in support of Brady/NFLPA.

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

too many people have become too emotionally invested in bashing kraft........it doesn't matter what happens now, there's no way to stop the bashing because it would require that most of these ninnies were wrong about something.........bunch of baby goodells

That reminds me of the fans and mediots who continue to insist that Tom Brady "did something"

-You could have a videotape of McNally in the bathroom with the footballs and doing nothing but peeing,
-You could have a videotape showing every football for every second from the time they were prepped until halftime,
-You could have a videotape of Kensil, Vincent, Grigson and even Goodell leaping and high-fiving like the old "fun bunch" at halftime and yelling "we got those bastards and nobody will ever catch us"

...and yet still they'd say "Oh, those texts.. Tom Brady certainly did something to those footballs!

 

[Ring 6]

What a bunch of BS. You've already wasted far more time stating why you refuse to prove something you said than it would have taken to prove it, if it was as widespread knowledge as you claim.

If you're claiming something is a fact and then refuse to back it up, it's going to be assumed that you're making **** up. It's the only rational explanation for why you would expend so much energy stating your refusal to do something that would be far easier to just do.

It happened. Believe whatever you want. Or educate yourself. It was discussed on this board and in the media.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

I have no dog in this fight, but usually...

When somebody insists that something did happen and somebody insists that something did NOT happen, it's really up to the person claiming that it did happen to produce the evidence, rather than it being up to the person claiming that it didn't happen to prove that it didn't happen.

example, if you're a cop and want to give me a ticket for speeding yesterday, please show me the evidence that I was indeed speeding yesterday. I surely cannot definitively prove that I was not speeding, and it's pretty silly to ask me in the first place to prove a negative.

 

[Todd Bradley]

Well, let's see. There was offensive pass interference on Gronk, wiping out a 10 yard gain on 3rd and five, which was a completely ******** call. And, if I'm remembering correctly, led to the punt that Harper fumbled.

There was a pretty bogus defensive holding on safety Patrick Chung that wiped out a sack for the New England defense that would have had the Broncos facing a third-and-goal from the 15-yard line. They scored the go ahead TD after that play.

That's 14 points right there.

Give me a break. Bad calls happen ALL time time to BOTH teams. Doesn't mean the game is fixed...

And friend, how does a bad call and subsequent NE three and out, directly lead to a NE muff punt?

That means the Pats stopped Denver and got the ball back with a 14 point lead STILL intact. Thus, ZERO to do with the refs. It was the Pats who muffed the punt and gave up a score, not the refs.

So I'll ask again, how does that have anything to do with your "ref conspiracy theory"?

 

[letekro]

Ah yes, the usual Andy Johnson rhetoric:

"I'm right and you're wrong and if you don't believe me, just look it up yourself!!!"

What a bunch of BS. You've already wasted far more time stating why you refuse to prove something you said than it would have taken to prove it, if it was as widespread knowledge as you claim.

If you're claiming something is a fact and then refuse to back it up, it's going to be assumed that you're making **** up. It's the only rational explanation for why you would expend so much energy stating your refusal to do something that would be far easier to just do.

Here is some footage i've obtained of AndyJohnson "busy" at work:

 

[Tony2046]

Give me a break. Bad calls happen ALL time time to BOTH teams. Doesn't mean the game is fixed...

And friend, how does a bad call and subsequent NE three and out, directly lead to a NE muff punt?

That means the Pats stopped Denver and got the ball back with a 14 point lead STILL intact. Thus, ZERO to do with the refs. It was the Pats who muffed the punt and gave up a score, not the refs.

So I'll ask again, how does that have anything to do with your "ref conspiracy theory"?

That game was strange. It was the first and only game in which I questioned whether or not someone got paid. No doubt the Harper muffed punt hurt but the last four calls were ridiculous.

Notice any holding in the background? No flag.

 

[Galeb]

It happened. Believe whatever you want. Or educate yourself. It was discussed on this board and in the media.

I remember that the NFLPA requested Kraft attend via phone. I couldn't find anything stating Brady requested him to. It's a NESN link in case anyone hates them too.

Report: Robert Kraft Wrote Statement In Support Of Tom Brady’s Character

 

[Todd Bradley]

That game was strange. It was the first and only game in which I questioned whether or not someone got paid. No doubt the Harper muffed punt hurt but the last four calls were ridiculous.

Notice any holding in the background? No flag.

It's a missed call. A missed call that's been magnified in a still image. Bit different in live action.

You can replay ANY game ever played and spot at least ten of those non-calls that went unnoticed for both teams.

Doesn't mean the sport is rigged.

 

[Tony2046]

It's a missed call. A missed call that's been magnified in a still image. Bit different in live action.

You can replay ANY game ever played and spot at least ten of those non-calls that went unnoticed for both teams.

Doesn't mean the sport is rigged.

The SI cover was meant in jest. But I do think something happened during that game. The calls were just incredibly bad.

I do agree that if Harper doesn't drop that punt they would have won.

 

[VectorPrime]

There was a hold that looked identical to that on the last second Brady pass to Thompson against the Saints in 2013. It went uncalled as well. Saints fans bit.ched about it but we sure didn't care.

 

[Mack Herron]

Guess which 3....

 

[rochrist]

Give me a break. Bad calls happen ALL time time to BOTH teams. Doesn't mean the game is fixed...

And friend, how does a bad call and subsequent NE three and out, directly lead to a NE muff punt?

That means the Pats stopped Denver and got the ball back with a 14 point lead STILL intact. Thus, ZERO to do with the refs. It was the Pats who muffed the punt and gave up a score, not the refs.

So I'll ask again, how does that have anything to do with your "ref conspiracy theory"?

The bad call WAS the three and out. It was a first down, taken away, forcing them to punt. If you don't think the Pats got screwed in that game, you're delusional. It was bad enough the the broadcasters talked about it.

I dont /necessarily/ think it's an anti-pats conspiracy, but there certainly is plenty of homefield ******** that goes on in Denver.

 

[letekro]

The bad call WAS the three and out. It was a first down, taken away, forcing them to punt. If you don't think the Pats got screwed in that game, you're delusional. It was bad enough the the broadcasters talked about it.

I dont /necessarily/ think it's an anti-pats conspiracy, but there certainly is plenty of homefield ******** that goes on in Denver.

"Homefield BS" is a huge reason why teams are better at home. It doesn't only benefit Denver and hurt NE. Compare the number of memorably bad calls that have gone against the Patriots at home vs. on the road.

 

[Todd Bradley]

The bad call WAS the three and out. It was a first down, taken away, forcing them to punt. If you don't think the Pats got screwed in that game, you're delusional. It was bad enough the the broadcasters talked about it.

I dont /necessarily/ think it's an anti-pats conspiracy, but there certainly is plenty of homefield ******** that goes on in Denver.

It was a road game in the snow on SNF. The Pats had a 14 point lead in the 4th and a touchdown lead with over 2 mins to go.

Bad calls happen, especially on the road in a hostile environment. Blaming the refs is just excuse making, especially when your team has a double digit lead in the 4th.

Sorry, you're not going to convince me otherwise, so just agree to disagree and move on.

 

[Froob]

I remember that the NFLPA requested Kraft attend via phone. I couldn't find anything stating Brady requested him to. It's a NESN link in case anyone hates them too.

Report: Robert Kraft Wrote Statement In Support Of Tom Brady’s Character

Wish Bill did one.

"Well Tom is uh, he's a great guy, smart, tough, instintive player, does a lot of things well."

 

[rochrist]

It was a road game in the snow on SNF. The Pats had a 14 point lead in the 4th and a touchdown lead with over 2 mins to go.

Bad calls happen, especially on the road in a hostile environment. Blaming the refs is just excuse making, especially when your team has a double digit lead in the 4th.

Sorry, you're not going to convince me otherwise, so just agree to disagree and move on.

I'm sure you think Deflategate was handled properly after a fair and balanced investigation too.

 

[SVN]

Report: 3 NFL owners unhappy with Robert Kraft following amicus brief filing supporting Tom Brady

 

[Galeb]

Guess which 3....

It's probably more than that but Irsay's tripping his sox off and is unable to count ATM.

 

[Ivan]

Guess which 3....

Good for Bob, that's the gold stars on the fridge for him imo. He should treat it like the college football helmets imo, his goal should be 31 stars for 31 pissed off owners.

They can all go f.ck themselves.

 

[Froob]

Guess which 3....

3 down, 28 to go.