NFL Free Agency Thread

[meatface]

I've been a fan since 93. Ever since BB came to be the head coach, most of the time, he doesn't go nuts on day 1 and sometimes day 2. He lets the market settle down then he makes moves!

I was 4 in 93 so I can't really speak to my fandom but yeah bb is smart enough to avoid most bidding ways, fans just want their team to sign fantasy football guys.

 

[meatface]

Except the current Super Bowl winner.
And us adding Revis and Browner for a Super Bowl run.

Pats got revis for a song and only after the jets turned him down.

 

[meatface]

Why pay Sanu instead of trade for a actual game breaking wr

Who is a game breaking reciever that any team is going to trade?

 

[DaBruinz]

@DaBruinz--do you think there's any chance that the rumored interest in Hogan could be due to some friction with getting Amendola to take a pay cut? Do you see any potential redundancy with Edelman, Amendola, and Hogan all playing on the 2016 squad? I hate to even bring it up, but there's still some concern with Edelman possibly needing a second surgery. Could Hogan be a backup option in case he somehow misses some portion of minis/TC?

Hogan reminds me of David Givens, though Hogan plays quicker and is more versatile imho. I think that, because of his size (6'1 and 220 lbs) and the fact he was a FB in his 1 year of college, that he'd be used in many different ways in both the passing and running games.

I think that the interest in Hogan is to replace Lafell. What Hogan doesn't bring is the electricity in the punt return game. And that is what the Pats would miss if they parted ways with Amendola. Might there be some correlation with the rumors surrounding Amendola? maybe. Who can say for sure.

I have a more negative take on idea of cutting Amendola. First, as others have pointed out, once he got healthy, he was clutch. Both down the stretch in 2014 and in 2015. He's also earned Brady's trust. And, as I mentioned, he's the Pats punt returner. I don't see the Pats coming close to a re-do of 2006 where they had only 1 WR that had worked with Brady. Yes, they'd have 3 this time going into camp, but having Martin and Dobson would be like having Caldwell and Gabriel again. (shudder)

I hadn't heard of Edelman needing a 2nd surgery. I would have thought they'd have done that by now if he did. Doesn't make sense to wait, imho.

 

[DaBruinz]

I saw that kembrell thompkins received a Kew round tender from the jets, I'm not sure if the pats would have enough interest

The Pats would have to offer Thompkins a contract and I think that ship has sailed.

 

[Bledsoehasaring]

And please never return.. Is there anything that shouts douchebag more than calling someone "bro"?

I called you bro in an earlier post. I apologize.

 

[supafly]

Could be. If its an Amendola swap then they are right back where they started. No outside threat. As far as Edelman I hadn't heard anything about a second surgery and if one was neccesary I would assume it would have been done by this point. The season has been over for close to 2 months.

In the end, Hogan is 6-1 220 so he fits the outside the numbers profile. I think they keep all and rotate in Martin and whomever. The Rod-man if they get him.

Edelman stated that they weren't sure whether or not he'd need a second surgery. That was about 2 weeks ago. Apparently, they are trying to allow some time to heal properly first before making that determination.

I don't think it would affect him at all for the regular season--only mini camp and possibly TC, although foot injuries can be very tricky. This is why they were monitoring it so closely with xrays/MRIs after the 2 games when he came back.

@Mack Herron -- do you remember where you originally shared the tweet from, or whom it was? I can't even remember what thread we were discussing this in.

 

[Rob0729]

Brady is turning 39 years old and we don't want to get him weapons at WR? Chris hogan really? Ugh

This post again? No offense, but people have been posting the "We only have a limited time left with Brady and the Pats are stupid not to destroy the future to overspend to get Brady receivers" post since Brady was 34.

The free agent WR market this year sucks. Teams are paying ridiculous money to a bunch of WRs who have never even had even one 1,000 season. Do you really think Marvin Jones or Travis Benjamin are these awesome talents that would be an impact free agent acquisition like Revis was two years ago? They are decent #2 WRs getting paid far more than Julian Edelman makes.

The fact is there isn't a huge canyon in talent between the top free agent WRs that were available and Chris Hogan? It isn't like the Pats passed on Antonio Brown to pursue Hogan. They decided not to pay Mohammed Sanu almost $7 million a year or Marvin Jones over that amount because they are worth half that.

 

[supafly]

I called you bro in an earlier post. I apologize.

No problem, brah.

 

[supafly]

This post again? No offense, but people have been posting the "We only have a limited time left with Brady and the Pats are stupid not to destroy the future to overspend to get Brady receivers" post since Brady was 34.

The free agent WR market this year sucks. Teams are paying ridiculous money to a bunch of WRs who have never even had even one 1,000 season. Do you really think Marvin Jones or Travis Benjamin are these awesome talents that would be an impact free agent acquisition like Revis was two years ago? They are decent #2 WRs getting paid far more than Julian Edelman makes.

The fact is there isn't a huge canyon in talent between the top free agent WRs that were available and Chris Hogan? It isn't like the Pats passed on Antonio Brown to pursue Hogan. They decided not to pay Mohammed Sanu almost $7 million a year or Marvin Jones over that amount because they are worth half that.

Rob, this is a great post. You really nailed it. I fully agree to a certain extent, as long as they aren't going to lowball any other potential WRs who aren't falling into the overpriced days one/two receivers. If say, Boldin is available for 4m a year, it may be worth overpaying by a million or so.

It also doesn't excuse the lack of interest in RBs like Anderson, who at 4.5m dollars a year, could be a steal. I can understand not going after a RB like Martin or Miller, but failing to pay someone like Forte or Anderson something in the 4m dollar range is frustrating to witness as a fan.

 

[1960Pats]

The negativity around here in the midst of a historic run of winning is hilarious. I wonder what it would be like if they weren't in the AFC title game every year.

Great question.

Maybe the fact that the Pats are in the hunt so often has many fans feeling like the team is always just one or two players away.

It might also be happening because Brady is nearing the end of his career and fans are in panic mode.

 

[Username]

Here's the thing.

Look at the teams who make a big spash in free agency every year.

Now look at the teams who don't.

Look at the teams who are playoff contenders every year.

Now look at the ones who aren't.

Barring an occasional anomaly, a pattern emerges....

 

[JMC00]

It also doesn't excuse the lack of interest in RBs like Anderson, who at 4.5m dollars a year, could be a steal

Absolutely not. CJ Anderson is not anywhere close to worth $4.5m a year.

You wouldn't pay Blount $4.5m and the two a very comparable stats wise.

Give me Blount at $1-1.5m per and use that $3m elsewhere.

 

[1960Pats]

6 SB Appearances - 4 Rings
10 AFCCGs with 6 Wins
13 Division Titles in the last 15 years.
15 straight winning seasons, 14 of which had double digit wins..

The funny thing about the 13 out of 15 AFCE titles is that in the other two years the Pats were tied for the best record but lost on tiebreakers. A truly remarkable run.

 

[slash83]

The funny thing about the 13 out of 15 AFCE titles is that in the other two years the Pats were tied for the best record but lost on tiebreakers. A truly remarkable run.

Wasn't one of those years when Brady was lost in week 1?

 

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

Absolutely not. CJ Anderson is not anywhere close to worth $4.5m a year.

You wouldn't pay Blount $4.5m and the two a very comparable stats wise.

Give me Blount at $1-1.5m per and use that $3m elsewhere.

CJ Anderson for 4.5 = Lewis(1m) + Blount (1.5m) + Ridley(vet min) + Bolden (1.2m) + Rookie ...

 

[1960Pats]

Wasn't one of those years when Brady was lost in week 1?

Yup. In 2008 the Pats went 11-5 and lost on the tiebreaker to Miami. In 2002 they were 9-7 and lost the tiebreaker to the J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets.

 

[Mack Herron]

Edelman stated that they weren't sure whether or not he'd need a second surgery. That was about 2 weeks ago. Apparently, they are trying to allow some time to heal properly first before making that determination.

I don't think it would affect him at all for the regular season--only mini camp and possibly TC, although foot injuries can be very tricky. This is why they were monitoring it so closely with xrays/MRIs after the 2 games when he came back.

@Mack Herron -- do you remember where you originally shared the tweet from, or whom it was? I can't even remember what thread we were discussing this in.

Like you I only recall the statement. The source was a reporter in Twitter but I don't remember who. I will look back later, but the gist was as you say: monitoring closely with no decision about second surgery. For me, the concern is not his availability for the start of the season so much as the end. His risk of reinjury must be taken into account in assessing the current WR corps.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Wasn't one of those years when Brady was lost in week 1?

08 yes

 

[RobertWeathers]

Great question.

Maybe the fact that the Pats are in the hunt so often has many fans feeling like the team is always just one or two players away.

It might also be happening because Brady is nearing the end of his career and fans are in panic mode.

One word- entitlement