Chris Harris: Broncos Defense has No Weaknesses

[Interception]

Any of you morons who have so much to say about how wrong my opinions are, why don't you PROVE it?

Show me proof that Seahawks 2014 D is better than Denver 2015 D. I'll wait.

 

[Deflatemyballs]

Any of you morons who have so much to say about how wrong my opinions are, why don't you PROVE it?

Show me proof that Seahawks 2014 D is better than Denver 2015 D. I'll wait.

Show me proof denvers is better. Oh you can't because it's week 9 you miserable ****head. Show me the the undeniable proof. Oh that's right you are full of **** and are just a crybaby because the pats have a better defense than you thought they would have, so you have to work a different angle to try to tweak people here because you have some sort of inadequacy complex you have to over compensate for, probably caused by impotency.

 

[IllegalContact]

Their defense is not the same as last year. They have more experienced young players, like Chris Harris. Players change, and they are better this year.

Are you saying Jamie Collins didn't improve? Chandler jones? Is this front 7 the same as last years front 7? Has Easley not improved?

Stop being so blind. They are obviously not the same as last years group. They are much better.

Actually, their defense is about the same after 7 weeks....last years defense was better against the run

Upon further review, IllegalContact nullifies the Interception

 

[Deflatemyballs]

Actually, their defense is about the same after 7 weeks....last years defense was better against the run

Upon further review, IllegalContact nullifies the Interception

Hell of a play on words

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Twist and cajole it all you want, however, the numbers and the empirical taken together speak a pretty clear truth that Denver's D is very good. Yet why would be be worried about a game we very much need?
Consider: so far in 2015 the closest we have been to 'tested' through 4 full quarters is Buffalo staging a late game comeback (in part thanks to TB's only mediocre item so far this year - clock management). No other team has been in position to have any chance of winning except Jets and Colts who could have forced OT with a 1 in a 1000 last second Festivus miracle. The Patriots simply have not been in a game where they were without breathing room/room for error and had to play their 'team best' in the whole 4th quarter to fight and squeeze out a win against PO/SB level competition in front of a hostile crowd.

Consider: Look at the Patriots remaining schedule: Jets, Phins, Bills, Skins, Eagles, Titans, Texans, Giants. That is all mediocre or below games coming up. Every one of those matchups I say "we should win if we do not make too many personal mistakes and the team executes what it is capable of executing". So without the Denver game (replace Denver with a game against the Ravens) we are completely untested against premier competition. It means in the POs or if we make it to the SB, more likely than not we will be facing a caliber of team we have not faced. Is that how we want to go into the POs/SB?? To me that's much more worrisome than a game in Denver in late November.

I really like our team a lot. I said that same thing on this board last year too (though it was end of November last year). The potency of last year and again of this year stands out in a way I hadn't see in the previous several years (even though they were PO/SB teams). But I like this year's team even more. IMHO Brady/the O look so functionally potent in almost every spot. I think we match up very favorably with any of the top tier teams. Yet without the Denver game that is a belief untested.
Personally I can't wait for the Denver game for not only how we stack up against them but how great it is for us fans (a rare treat in the 2015 NFL). And if we beat them solidly, being it is in Denver, and provided injuries heading into January don't hurt us too bad, IMHO the SB is ours for the taking as long as we don't beat ourselves (put another way - if Denver was in the NFC they would be the #1 team that I would expect the Patriots to face in the SB).

 

[Deflatemyballs]

Twist and cajole it all you want, however, the numbers and the empirical taken together speak a pretty clear truth that Denver's D is very good. Yet why would be be worried about a game we very much need?
Consider: so far in 2015 the closest we have been to 'tested' through 4 full quarters is Buffalo staging a late game comeback (in part thanks to TB's only mediocre item so far this year - clock management). No other team has been in position to have any chance of winning except Jets and Colts who could have forced OT with a 1 in a 1000 last second Festivus miracle. The Patriots simply have not been in a game where they were without breathing room/room for error and had to play their 'team best' in the whole 4th quarter to fight and squeeze out a win against PO/SB level competition in front of a hostile crowd.

Consider: Look at the Patriots remaining schedule: Jets, Phins, Bills, Skins, Eagles, Titans, Texans, Giants. That is all mediocre or below games coming up. Every one of those matchups I say "we should win if we do not make too many personal mistakes and the team executes what it is capable of executing". So without the Denver game (replace Denver with a game against the Ravens) we are completely untested against premier competition. It means in the POs or if we make it to the SB, more likely than not we will be facing a caliber of team we have not faced. Is that how we want to go into the POs/SB?? To me that's much more worrisome than a game in Denver in late November.

I really like our team a lot. I said that same thing on this board last year too (though it was end of November last year). The potency of last year and again of this year stands out in a way I hadn't see in the previous several years (even though they were PO/SB teams). But I like this year's team even more. IMHO Brady/the O look so functionally potent in almost every spot. I think we match up very favorably with any of the top tier teams. Yet without the Denver game that is a belief untested.
Personally I can't wait for the Denver game for not only how we stack up against them but how great it is for us fans (a rare treat in the 2015 NFL). And if we beat them solidly, being it is in Denver, and provided injuries heading into January don't hurt us too bad, IMHO the SB is ours for the taking as long as we don't beat ourselves (put another way - if Denver was in the NFC they would be the #1 team that I would expect the Patriots to face in the SB).

I just wanted to say any Seinfeld reference automatically gets a positive rating from me.

 

[makoute]

Perhaps a good gauge will be the first half Denver 2015 vs. the second half 2014 Seattle defenses?

The reason I bring this up is because Denver, this year, has played piss poor QB's minus Rodgers (who played piss poor) the first half of their schedule, and are healthy on the defensive side of the ball, which is similar to the Seattle defense and set of circumstances during their second half stretch during 2014.

Who did Seattle play last year?

 

[Gronkowski123]

Any of you morons who have so much to say about how wrong my opinions are, why don't you PROVE it?

Show me proof that Seahawks 2014 D is better than Denver 2015 D. I'll wait.

patriots are the champs.

broncos still haven't won without cheating the salary cap. take that to the bank!

 

[Deflatemyballs]

patriots are the champs.

broncos still haven't won without cheating the salary cap. take that to the bank!

He'll probably place you on ignore soon. He's a coward who doesn't know **** about football

 

[moejr]

Neither team scored 30 and both got pick 6s. Offensive points for both were below 20.

Yes I mistyped. I meant 20.

 

[ausbacker]

You can't say anything definitive about who they are, but you can talk about how they've played. If we are doing pure midseason comparisons, then Denver takes it by a country mile. Seattle didn't ramp up last year until Wagner came back and they hit a remarkable run of awful QBs.

I'm telling you again, I don't agree. Denver has been very good, but they are not on Seattle's level just yet. Seattle has played excellent D for 4 odd seasons. Denver for 7 games. It's not comparable, at all.

 

[moejr]

I'm telling you again, I don't agree. Denver has been very good, but they are not on Seattle's level just yet. Seattle has played excellent D for 4 odd seasons. Denver for 7 games. It's not comparable, at all.

Good point. We also did well against the Seattle D in the SB and I believe we can do the same to Denver even on the road.

 

[meatface]

Im sure Brady will find some weaknesses, LB corps is still meh in Denver

 

[meatface]

I'm telling you again, I don't agree. Denver has been very good, but they are not on Seattle's level just yet. Seattle has played excellent D for 4 odd seasons. Denver for 7 games. It's not comparable, at all.

I dont care I cant stand it

 

[mihap]

Any of you morons who have so much to say about how wrong my opinions are, why don't you PROVE it?

Show me proof that Seahawks 2014 D is better than Denver 2015 D. I'll wait.

Actually Seahawks defense in 2014 was not near being brilliant.
Rivers showed how to play them in week 3 where he abuse them,
in Dallas game LB Wagner was out, easy 30 points on them,
Derrek Carr almost win in Seattle!!
but after that they didnt have any competition, SF with Kaepernik, and Cardinals without QB, RAms without QB, so all second half season games without playing first, even in some without second string QB.
Then in playoffs they had PAnthers with Cam who is a little better version of Kaepernick, I wont comment Packers game cause this was one of the most stupid loss...Rodgers played well.
For me Seattle wasnt that scary in def, they were really lucky to be in playoffs.

And one thing about them. I think that Bobby Wagner is the best player in their defense. Wagner was out against Panthers and guess what. Panthers won.

Broncos 2015 D is only half way to prove that they are legit. I recommend u to wait with the hype. They are healthy now.

 

[luuked]

Seahawks D: 15.9 pts/game, 267.1 yds/game.
Denvers D: 16.0 pts/game, 261.1 yds/game.

I have no reason to believe you know anything about football to begin with.

You see the irony in your post, right ?

Quoting football statistics which by themselves are completely useless and meaningless (except for W/L) while accusing the other of having no football knowledge.

We are talking about a Denver team that should not be undefeated but have 3-4 losses if their opponents didn't **** their bed. The freaking Minnesota Vikings were driving to win the game at Mile High. The cursed Browns had the game essentially won in OT before they sacked themselves out of a game winning FG. I can't even put into words how the frakking Chiefs managed to lose their game against Denver.

I'd rather let the holistic picture of what happens on the field paint the picture of how good a team is than isolated, meaningless, out-of-context statistics. And what I have seen so far is a Denver team that in the majority of their games relies on turnovers and big plays to win very tight encounters. At some point they will stop getting those breaks consistently. It is very reminiscent of our 2013 season where we relied on a lot of heroics from Brady and some fortunate bounces to win many games very closely in the 4Q (among others @Buffalo, Saints, Denver, Browns (!)). You can't live forever in the statistically improbable.

Anyway.. all of them accolades like #1 defense or offense mean nothing if you can't win the game.

 

[Guts]

Even with a historic defense, Peyton Manning will **** the bed come playoff time...

 

[Tony2046]

This Broncos D is much better than Seattles.
Playing in New England, I'd give this game to NE... but in Denver, it's a different story. This scares me because if we lose, we will probably get the #2 seed and they will have the #1 seed. I think the home team will win in the playoffs, so this NE vs DEN game might as well be a must-win.

We've won the last two because we played in NE. In DEN, our chances are not as great. That D is playing much better than the Jets D as well, anyone who said the Jets have a better defense is fooling themselves.

If you think I'm wrong, place some bets!
Denvers D will be ranked higher than the Jets D in most categories.
Brady will have his worst performance of the season against Denver.

Hope the Pats pull out a win there but I'm not holding my breath.

Don't forget that Manning has to face the Patriots D as well. It's a complimentary game. Denver has the #1 scoring D (16 pts/g) but Pats have the #8 scoring D (19 pts/g). While the Pats have the #1 Scoring Offense (35.6 pts/g) and the Broncos have the #13 ranked offense (24 pts/g).

Manning will have to throw outside the numbers effectively to win this game. They won't be able to effectively run the ball against the Pats front 7 and Manning is going to be under pressure.

It will be a good game but Brady has proven time and time again that he can score effectively on a top ranked defense.

And let's not forget that the Patriots D has been playing without Sheard for the last few games and still have performed well. All in all it's not going to be a fun day for PM (that's Peyton Manning and not Pre-Menstrual although I'm sure PM will look a little PM'd throughout the game)

 

[Tony2046]

Seattle allowed 15.9 pts/game.
Denver is allowing 16.0 pts/game.
But it's a ridiculous comparison? Lol.

You would have to include Strength in Schedule among other things to put a better perspective on that.

 

[ExpatPack]

I'll take Denver's defense right now over Seattle's defense of last year's SB. Don't forget how banged up they were. Sherman and Thomas were the walking wounded. And Chancellor was injured too as I recall.