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NFL's mouthpiece (ESPN) at it again with OTL piece on cameragate


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My (possibly a little off calculations)...

2000-2007 (while allegedly taping signals):
88-39

2007-2015 (not taping signals):
108-34

Yeah HUGE competitive advantage. :mad:
They're deflating footballs during 2007-2015. Didn't you hear? It was a "deflation scheme" that was going on. They were finally caught during that cold, rainy night back in January.
 
Iam just mad. I guess espn achieved what it wanted. Sensationalizing it with more accusations of employees stealing playsheets from opposing locker rooms and what not.
I just dont know what the team can do
"Other 31 teams :pats taped our practices"
"Pats:No we did not"
"Other 31: we dont believe it"
Of course fans belong to the other 31 so the PR hit is terrible.
 
The most absurd thing I heard on m&m show was the patriots ordering staff to go in the opponents locker room and stealing their play sheet. The kicker was a lot of New England players confirms it. At least give one source.

Has any heard of this at all?
 
I can't get past the fact that there's this big conspiracy theory about what might have been on those tapes. They PLAYED the tapes in a loop on NFL network the week that Cameragate broke. So we KNOW what was on there. Sheesh.

It's a slight variant on what I called at the time "Walsh's paradox": If there were anything more salacious on the tapes then filming the signals and the scoreboard, we would have seen it at the time.
 
Why can't Bob let Johnathan take over.....bet he might sue ESPN if he could. Somebody needs to shut their mouths once and for all. The evidence for defamation is lying right there in plain sight.
 
LOL. I can't believe anyone takes this **** seriously. Its all lies, obviously, from a butthurt league that's been taking a PR hit lately. What a load of garbage.
 
ESPN also released an OTL article that has some rather dubious statements in it..

They claim they interviewed more than 90 league officials, owners, team executives and coaches, currents and former Patriots coaches, staffers and players, and previously undisclosed notes of key meetings.

That the views of Belichick and Adams is that the league is lazy and incompetent.

That the Patriots staffers, if caught, were told to lie to league security by saying they were with "Kraft Productions" or with "Patriots TV" .

The article implies that only the Patriots have ever signed a player from a former team to try and get signals and glean information.

The article implies that only the Patriots have ever taped from the sidelines though we all KNOW that other teams have. Especially the Jets.

The article states that low-level Patriots employees would steal play-sheets from the opposing locker-room during warm-ups..

The article states that the Patriots would have employees ransack the Oppositions hotel rooms for play-books/notes/etc.

That Matt Walsh was instructed to erase and destroy a tape because the team had illegally had a player on IR participate in practice.

That the Patriots regularly scramble and jam the opponent headsets. (you know, the ones controlled by the league)

ESPN implies that the bonuses that Goodell received in 2012 and 2013 that gave him income of 44.2M and $35M respectively, was Kraft being generous for Spygate..

Supposedly, the TD pass from Brady to Branch was because of stolen signals since the Steelers hadn't changed their signals all year... (Umm, guess they don't understand that signal stealing is ok.)

Except for a select few, the article gives NO NAMES. They use things like "former Patriots coach" or "Steelers coach". (like we're supposed to accept ESPN's veracity on this).

ESPN claims that the NFL stonewalled Arlen Specter and that Goodell was scared of the potential of a Congressional investigation.

Supposedly, Goodell called Martz when Martz was the 49ers OC and begged Martz to tell Specter that all was good..
 
Wow, this is possibly the dumbest part of this whole thing:

Maybe the most shocking tale comes way down in the story, after all the descriptions of the Patriots' spying, when former New England coaches and employees are cited as describing an even more effective cheating system:

"Several of them acknowledge that during pregame warm-ups, a low-level Patriots employee would sneak into the visiting locker room and steal the play sheet, listing the first 20 or so scripted calls for the opposing team's offense."

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-s...r-in-scope-than-first-realized-140513497.html

These lies just keep getting more and more asinine.
 
How big do you think the media will make this out to be?

Headline national news? Die off in a few days?
 
Goodell should hire Wells to do another independent investigation into this, citing new information. Then take NE's 1st rounder in 2017 and a 2nd in 2018.
 
This is Bob and Brady's chance and anyone else who played here from 2000-2007. ESPN has the facts but is making accusations that they know are false. This is the easiest defamation of character case ever. Hell season ticket owners on here should contact some lawyers and see if they'd have any shot.

False accusations against public characters don't matter. It has to be with proven malicious intent. Those folks could easily say they never saw the retraction. It's a nonstarter.
 
The second, I mean the very second, the 2nd Circuit affirm's Berman's decision and the US Supreme Court denies cert., Patriots should file a monster defamation suit against the NFL, Goodell/his minions, and ESPN (or do I repeat myself?).

C'mon, Kraft . . . enough is enough!
 
I believe this is an attempt by the league to create a way out that preserves business as usual and makes deflate gate go away. It gives Goodell and the league owners an excuse for pursuing this ridiculous story. The question is will fans around the country buy it or see through it for what it is.
 
The NFL is really making me become disinterested in Football. I was on the edge of whether or not I should stop watching football after Belichick/Brady leaves. But the NFL is making it an easier decision every day.
 
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