The Published Wells Report.

[PatsFanInVa]

You can easily feel Kraft's disappointment and frustration within this statement. I could see him biting his lip while trying to craft a toned down response

Not me. I see a guy 12 offices away biting his lip after the 13th draft comes back to him with yet more comment balloons in the margin saying "Make it more like I'm biting my lip while trying to be toned down."

 

[woolster22]

Best flaw yet, if the nfl was tipped off prior to the game, why are we going by a refs memory? there should have been a written history, and using both gauges given one or both appear not to have been properly calibrated.

 

[50-yard-line]

Stepping back and just looking at it from afar...

Brady is pissed after the Jets game and registers his complaint to Jastremski (the tweet says as much).

It can be easily assumed that Brady is also therefore pissed that the prep he wants isn't giving him the game ball he wants - it was 2.5 pounds OVER the max and he wants the min, for crissakes!

Jastremski passes it on to McNally - Brady is blaming Jastremski's staff, essentially.

So...McNally on his way to the field in the AFCCG goes into the bathroom and sticks a pin in the balls. He's got no gauge and isn't going for exact - he's just trying to get them to feel more to Brady's liking.

In this very plausible scenario, Brady didn't do anything wrong.

In any scenario, the whole effing thing is a joke anyway: if the league cares so damned much, why were the balls 16 the day after the JEST game?

If these balls represent the integrity of the game, how does McNally get his hands on them before the game, but AFTER the measurements, to begin with?

This whole thing is a WWF-like bag of dung, sorry. And my scenario above is EVERY BIT AS PROBABLE as anything I've seen from the Wells report, and in that scenario, Brady. did nothing more than complain to Jastremski that the balls were over-inflated.

And in that scenario above, every joking/pissed off/whatever text from McNally makes more sense, right?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Best flaw yet, if the nfl was tipped off prior to the game, why are we going by a refs memory? there should have been a written history, and using both gauges given one or both appear not to have been properly calibrated.

As I've pointed out before, given that there is a fairly consistent drop between one measurement and the other, the most likely explanation is that the higher # is the first measurement (whoever did it) and the lower # is the second.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

"Our scientific consultants ultimately informed us that the data alone did not provide a basis for them to determine with absolute certainty whether there was or was not tampering."
-buried on page 112

 

[JMC00]

Here's a good nugget...

Sean Leahy ‏@leahysean 16m16 minutes ago
Error in Wells report: Claims @bkravitz broke story at 9:55p "mid-way through the second half" of AFC title game...

Actually that is an error on twtter's part. If you look at twitter and are not logged in everything is time stamped PT. So they could have looked at his twitter and not been logged in and that's how they got 9:55.

Although it does show they are somewhat lax on details.

 

[Bella*chick]

Dan Wetzel ‏@DanWetzel 8m8 minutes ago
Tom Brady probably isn't innocent, but the Wells Report sure doesn't prove he's guilty http://sports.yahoo.com/news/tom-brady-probably-isn-t-innocent-in-deflate-gate--but-wells-report-fails-to-prove-he-s-guilty-223250553.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma…

OK, I agree the report doesn't find him guilty, but when he says "not innocent", what does that mean? Being pissed because a ball was at 16psi in a game and then demanding that the refs be made aware that he likes the ball at the lower end of the range is not a crime. It's a QB preference. I just don't see anywhere where Brady was telling anyone to do anything illegal. It's the same level "not innocent" as Rodgers trying to sneak overinflated balls by referees and hoping they don't notice. It's a QB preference and nothing nefarious.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

I probably had a tuna sandwich for luck...more then likely

 

[woolster22]

Check out @PatriotsNationn's Tweet: https://twitter.com/PatriotsNationn/status/596078823394942976?s=09

 

[Satchboogie3]

I find it interesting that they brush the "integrity" of the game officials under the rug in one paragraph, givig their statements and protocol 100% truth, while the Patriots organization doesn't get such treatment. So no evidence to call in to question the refs? Really? With the ref firing over the K balls, the players who are on record stating that the refs often don't check the balls with a gauge, and the text where it clearly indicates the refs far over-inflated a ball beyond regulation, there's no evidence to suggest they might lie or provide false information? Nope. Take their word as the truth. Have no doubt about what Walt Anderson remembers the ball pressure to be pregame. No way they didn't actually check the pressures and are trying to cover their ass. Nope, that's not even "less likely than not!"...

 

[Jackson 2]

Check out @PatriotsNationn's Tweet: https://twitter.com/PatriotsNationn/status/596078823394942976?s=09

What the hell does go to war mean?

 

[Interception]

There is so much delusion... You guys will deny anything no matter how obvious it is if its badmouthing the patriots. Stop being so biased.

Wells only said it's probable because there is no concrete evidence so formally it is the right thing to say... but circumstantial evidence is enough to convict someone of wrong doing, and there's about 200 pages of circumstantial evidence here...

It is CLEAR from the texts that Brady was giving gifts to McNally.
He calls himself "the deflator" while saying he needs new kicks, new gifts.
Do you think the other assistant was giving McNally gifts without Brady's knowledge?
What about Brady's text messages to the other assistant asking him if hes okay and the assistant replying he's nervous? Why be nervous if you're innocent?

I love the Patriots and I love Brady, I really don't care if he bribed an assistant into changing pressure... but it's pretty obvious that Brady at least knew a bit about it.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Someone over at reddit posted this link about Exponent:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/18/business/la-fi-toyota-exponent18-2010feb18

"The first thing you know is that when Exponent is brought in to help a company, that company is in big trouble," she said.

 

[Bella*chick]

If Walt remembered the psi to be 12.5 or 13.0 or whatever, it is HIGHLY unlikely that was an exact measurement. MOre likely it was off by enough to explain any "discrepancies of science."

And don't get me started on biased scientists can be. You'd think science can't lie, but science isn't doing the talking…..people are and people twist things how they want them to be ALL the time.

 

[Sfpat]

From what i heard and read, no evidence against Belichick and Kraft but the text messages between McNally and Jastremski clearly implicate that they knew Brady and were acting on his behalf. Doesn't look good that Brady refused to cooperate with the investigation either.
The USA Today also reported that "The report also details scientific evidence supporting a conclusion the balls were deliberately deflated".
Keeping my fingers crossed!!!!!!!

It's clear that they are acting on TBs request that the balls be 12.5 psi prior to giving them to the refs. Absolutely nothing wrong with that

 

[Ross12]

Actually that is an error on twtter's part. If you look at twitter and are not logged in everything is time stamped PT. So they could have looked at his twitter and not been logged in and that's how they got 9:55.

Although it does show they are somewhat lax on details.

Okay, so I'll give a pass on the time, but the fact that he's putting in his supposedly super accurate report that Kravitz was leaking the info midway through the game, when in fact it was a fair bit after the game is over, kind of calls into question the accuracy of the whole thing. If he's gonna slip up on the details here, could he not have slipped up elsewhere?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Perhaps. But those texts do make it clear that Brady knew who McNally and Jastremski were which means Brady was outright lying in his interview when he said he didn't know McNally's name or what he did. And that's not a good thing. First, why was he lying? Second, lying to the investigation will (rightly, I have to say) draw a significant penalty.

I don't know whether Brady was lying or not, but the texts discussed to this point make it clear that McNally and Jastremski knew Tom's name, not that Brady knew their names. This is not surprising, since everybody knows Tom's name.

Maybe I haven't read enough of the texts.

 

[JMC00]

There is so much delusion... You guys will deny anything no matter how obvious it is if its badmouthing the patriots. Stop being so biased.

Wells only said it's probable because there is no concrete evidence so formally it is the right thing to say... but circumstantial evidence is enough to convict someone of wrong doing, and there's about 200 pages of circumstantial evidence here...

It is CLEAR from the texts that Brady was giving gifts to McNally.
He calls himself "the deflator" while saying he needs new kicks, new gifts.
Do you think the other assistant was giving McNally gifts without Brady's knowledge?
What about Brady's text messages to the other assistant asking him if hes okay and the assistant replying he's nervous? Why be nervous if you're innocent?

I love the Patriots and I love Brady, I really don't care if he bribed an assistant into changing pressure... but it's pretty obvious that Brady at least knew a bit about it.

Explain how the balls were 16 lbs and Brady wanted them 13 lbs then idiot.

 

[resdubwhite]

Gamepass subscription discontinued tonight.
Fwiw

 

[Ross12]

Someone over at reddit posted this link about Exponent:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/feb/18/business/la-fi-toyota-exponent18-2010feb18

The California engineering firm is known for helping big corporations weather messy disputes. It denies accusations that it skews results to benefit its clients.

Huh, what do you know.