THIS is Why Reiss Almost Quit ESPN Last year

[Oswlek]

What the hell does Seattle crushing Denver last year have anything to do with Manning's injuries/sudden deterioration this year (as well as Elway's mishandling of their roster)? Nothing.

"Super Bowl losses are devastating" you croon "Teams never bounce back." This is the third time in a row the Patriots are knocking at the door since losing to the Giants in 11-12. Are you really saying Eli-to-Manningham is the reason they lost the last two title games? Or that the outcome of the next game (or two) will determine whether Brady suddenly falls apart? What kind of fatalist nonsense is this? Sounds like someone is trying to easy-bake oven their hot take, but they forgot to add a few vital ingredients to make it even semi-plausible.

This forum needs a slow clap smiley.

 

[kennyb]

They're paid to say controversial opinionated things. What's he supposed to say? It'll be a good game?

 

[shmessy]

Why would Reiss quit over this? People have been talking like this since 07.

To bring you up to date:

He almost did last year.

He was upset that ESPN began infringing on his bog with national material. He built the blog. They brought him over originally to do it, and then after a few years the suits told him they were going to bring in their national material. He went publicly ballistic for probably the only time in his career.

Maybe you missed it when it happened.

 

[shmessy]

Well, I guess it's obviously pretty urgent and the Pats have to take care of business Sunday.........hard

Is there a milestone in there somewhere about the day that Luck loses to the Pats by less than 3 TD's?

BTW,

cory redding - 34
mike adams - 33
laron landry - 31
d'qwell jackson - 31

their defense is actually older than the pats

To someone like Colin Cowherd, who thinks the NBA only has two players (Kobe Bryant and Lebron James), NFL rosters do not have 53 players.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Wasn't that pre-salary cap parity era?

Haven't had a repeat participant in the big game since 2004 (Pats of course)

 

[RobertWeathers]

To bring you up to date:

He almost did last year.

He was upset that ESPN began infringing on his bog with national material. He built the blog. They brought him over originally to do it, and then after a few years the suits told him they were going to bring in their national material. He went publicly ballistic for probably the only time in his career.

Maybe you missed it when it happened.

I totally missed it. Meek Reiss making a fuss is unheard of. Good for him though.

 

[shmessy]

I know this is reason #436 to hate E!SPN or note Cowherd has no credibility, but...
Where I live their is a large spot with no radio coverage my bus ran through. It has 2 stations: 1 in Portuguese and 1 carrying E!SPN radio. I heard Cowherd for years.
He always hated soccer. He made fun of it. He made several good arguments.
Then E!SPN got the women's World Cup. Strangely enough, Cowherd saw the light about the "beautiful" game.

He is Ryan Seacrest.

 

[shmessy]

I think you are being a little over dramatic with the headline, almost as dramatic as cowherd, who by the way is a notorious brady lover, I was listening to his show at lunch the other day and he couldn't stop hyping how awesome brady was, and how its going to be pats vs seahawks.

You don't understand.

It isn't about the crap (positive or negative to the Pats) Cowherd is spewing.

It is all about Reiss' blog having to be the landing pad for it, instead of it just staying on the national ESPN.com website.

Notice most of that blog's bylines are either Reiss, Yates or some ther writer directly.

This is a business post byline listed as ESPNBostoncom.

 

[shmessy]

It's an opinion column. The guy is paid to write opinions.

...we do it for free...

It wasn't a column and it wasn't written by Colin Cowherd.

It was an ad exec piece by a suit at ESPN.com who wrote a summary to throw onto Reiss' Patriot blog. Whoever wrote it probably wrote PR pieces for ABC a couple of days ago summarizing the best jokes by Fey and Poehler at the Golden Globes.

This is what Reiss was protesting last year when they told him to take it or else be breaking his contract with them.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He is Ryan Seacrest.

I ran into him at the Bellagio in Vegas a few years ago. My buddy was being an idiot but Ryan was very cordial. Hes a scrawny dude.

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

The hype surrounding Luck's "potential" is off the charts. It seems to be a foregone conclusion he'll be a multi SB winner. Maybe, but he reminds me more of Favre than Brady or Manning. All the hype is about what he's going to do in the future. Manning was supposed to own the AFC until Brady came along. He's a great player with all the tools but I feel like I'm watching the media tell me Grant Hill is the next Michael Jordan again.

I mean, it's not even the greatest beginning of a career ever. Brady had a SB and he'd led the league in TD passes by his third year, Luck has done neither. I'll call him great when he actually does something more than 100 other QBs have done in the NFL, and so far he hasn't.

 

[Deus Irae]

What the hell does Seattle crushing Denver last year have anything to do with Manning's injuries/sudden deterioration this year (as well as Elway's mishandling of their roster)? Nothing.

"Super Bowl losses are devastating" you croon "Teams never bounce back." This is the third time in a row the Patriots are knocking at the door since losing to the Giants in 11-12. Are you really saying Eli-to-Manningham is the reason they lost the last two title games? Or that the outcome of the next game (or two) will determine whether Brady suddenly falls apart? What kind of fatalist nonsense is this? Sounds like someone is trying to easy-bake oven their hot take, but they forgot to add a few vital ingredients to make it even semi-plausible.

This forum needs a slow clap smiley.

It's not a smiley, but here you go

 

[BobDigital]

Well he is right that at some point Luck will own the AFC. Just I don't think it will be next year.

They need to get a few more players and Luck needs to cut back on the Ints a bit.

I think at this point Luck is 90% of the QB he is going to be. He has that gunslinger thing in his DNA and it is not going away. I think he will learn to do it less but he is going to keep doing it.

Denver is going to go down the tubes next year I think. It will be Ravens/Pats/Indy for a while then just Indy/Ravens unless Garoppolo turns out to be the real deal.

As far as team building Indy needs a few OL men and I think 2 more playmakers on D. I think Hilton/Moncreif(sp)/TEs though not elite will be good enough if you give Luck time and a D.

If this next draft hits and their players develop in the next 2 or so years they will be an elite team with SB or bust expectations.

 

[Gronkowski123]

cowherd is a huge pats homer.
brady is his favorite player btw. one of the few espn guys who doesn't hate us.

anyone what skip predicted this morning? prophet is never wrong with pats predictions!

 

[patfanken]

Cowherd is one of the better ESPN radio guys. He's also been one of the biggest Brady/Pats lovers on a consistent basis. The fact is that on the surface none of what he says isn't true. The Colts SHOULD be a better team next season. Luck should be a better QB. But the Pats SHOULD be a better team next season as well....and so should a lot of other teams. Shmess, a bit of an over reaction I think on Cowherd.

Your criticism of ESPN on the other hand, is well justified. Somewhere in the 80's ESPN did some market research and found that the casual national sports fan identified more with individuals than with teams. Since that time, it has ceased to be about the Lakers and the Celtic, and all about Magic and Larry. And so the cult of the INDIVIDUAL was born. Over the last 30 years ESPN and their copycat competitors have done their best to frame TEAM competitions in terms of individuals.

So when great players come into the league like Luck the mediots like ESPN latch on to their talent and build or tear down (the story lines are just as easy either way) the individuals at the expense of the value of the team. That's why sometimes when they ask these guys now what TEAM did they follow growing up, many say, they didn't follow any team in particular, but was a big fan of THIS guy or that guy.

It used to be the most compelling story in sports was when the sum of the group was greater than the talent of the individuals. THAT's the beauty of all team sports, but ESPECIALLY football. I used to love NBA basketball, but now rarely watch it. Its devolved to every team looking to find 2 or 3 "superstars" and that's it. Basketball is a great team game....or used to be. Now its all about individual talents and WAY too much money. Its not a coincidence that the team with the bast coach, most selfless players, and best team concept keeps beating all those "superstar" teams. Its also no coincidence that they are among the oldest teams.

You are right Shmess, ESPN IS part of the problem. But Cowherd's rant isn't an indication of why,

 

[PatriotSeven]

So Andrew Luck is going to be in the Superbowl every year from here on out until he retires, and no team will ever beat him, and if there is a team that will ever beat him it will never be the Patriots. Andrew Luck is going to be so good that not only will he clean up all his mistakes and never throw a pick, but he will also make sure the Colts will always have a top 5 defense, and never suffer injuries in the post season, he will turn Pagano into Belichick and will forever and ever dominate the playoffs till retirement shall do the NFL and Luck apart...

See this is why I have no issue developing hate towards any team or player, even Luck and the Colts. Thanks "Coward", I needed that.

 

[Fencer]

Your criticism of ESPN on the other hand, is well justified. Somewhere in the 80's ESPN did some market research and found that the casual national sports fan identified more with individuals than with teams. Since that time, it has ceased to be about the Lakers and the Celtic, and all about Magic and Larry. And so the cult of the INDIVIDUAL was born. Over the last 30 years ESPN and their copycat competitors have done their best to frame TEAM competitions in terms of individuals.

Some thoughts on that:

• ESPN's first signature show was SportsCenter, and it's all about the highlights.
• David Stern is the one who made the NBA about individual stars. Brilliant move. Hard to hate him for it, because no matter how bad it was for the sport's quality it was great both for the sport's popularity and for race relations.
• Fantasy sports have had a huge impact.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

congrats on your dynasty colts? slow clap?

 

[shmessy]

You are right Shmess, ESPN IS part of the problem. But Cowherd's rant isn't an indication of why,

Once again, Ken, my point wasn't about Cowherd's rant or whatever point of view he was spewing today that will change tomorrow based on his hourly internal celebrity Q rating polls.

It was all about the business aspect of the ESPN suits last year unilaterally making a business decision about Mike Reiss' blog that they enticed him to bring over from the Globe years ago.

They bigfooted him, and for the first time in public Mike Reiss bit back loudly last year.

This is just a result of that.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The hype surrounding Luck's "potential" is off the charts. It seems to be a foregone conclusion he'll be a multi SB winner. Maybe, but he reminds me more of Favre than Brady or Manning. All the hype is about what he's going to do in the future. Manning was supposed to own the AFC until Brady came along. He's a great player with all the tools but I feel like I'm watching the media tell me Grant Hill is the next Michael Jordan again.

I mean, it's not even the greatest beginning of a career ever. Brady had a SB and he'd led the league in TD passes by his third year, Luck has done neither. I'll call him great when he actually does something more than 100 other QBs have done in the NFL, and so far he hasn't.

Luck has a very good career trajectory going. 1st 3 seasons, 33-15 reg season. 1st season- playoff game, 3rd season - 3 playoff wins, 2014 4700 yds, 1st in TDs with 40 etc. He has a 2.4 career INT rate which is between Brady and Favre so hes not wild with the ball as people think. However he is young and as as a QB that is a shortcoming.

I feel confident in saying that once Indy surrounds Luck with more talent on offense (legit running game) and acquires more talent on the defensive side of the ball, they will be a legit SB contender. With that said, they aren't there yet.