Denver's TJ Ward a man of his word, goes low on 87 again

[pencilneckgeek]

It was an obvious cheap shot. It might be legal, but I'm betting his coaches told him to quit it, so Payton's career didn't end yesterday.

 

[pencilneckgeek]

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Looks mid-thigh to me.

Lower thigh, but definitely different from Watd.

 

[jessev2x]

Been lurking a lot on these forums lately, but I felt this was the right time to chime in. These are my thoughts to a Facebook post regarding, Ward.

It's like he aims for the knees. And looking back at it, when he was interviewed after injuring Gronk, last year, he said he didn't want to get a penalty for going high (helmet contact rules), but that's complete ********.

Want to know why I think it was a ******** ass response? Because he is 5"10; Gronk is 6"6. I don't think their would be a worry about helmet to helmet contact, as he otherwise stated. He mentioned that is how the league wants it to be...

Yesterday, I believe when he went low, gronk was on his way out of bounds. There was no need for that. A hard push with the same momentum would have been enough to push, Gronk out of bounds.

 

[Joker]

You joined up on my dad's birthday...post more. Good take.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

You absolutely need to go low on gronk if you want to tackle him. We are all sensitive when it comes to gronks knee. He is one of the keys to us winning another superbowl.... But you can't blame ward for doing a legal hit. If anyone is to blame here it would be the NFL for allowing such a hit.

 

[Tom meets Kaepernick]

Are the differences between aiming your helmet at someone's knee and tackling low that hard to understand? Aiming your helmet at someone's knee is as Zolak put it: a punk ass play.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

Are the differences between aiming your helmet at someone's knee and tackling low that hard to understand? Aiming your helmet at someone's knee is as Zolak put it: a punk ass play.

Both are legal. So who do you blame? Somebody playing within the rules or the guy that made the rules ?

 

[DaBruinz]

rlcarr - You can disagree all you want. However, as someone who has played sports all my life, I learned that you never wish injury on another player no matter what he's done on the field. It's bad karma. It WILL come back to bite you.

Wishing injury on a player makes YOU classless and a coward. Plain and simple. And that goes for MAYOnnaise, JarOfMayo51, Belichickfan, and Silver Blue&Red as well.

Same for CheekyDave and livinginthepast. Another pair of internet tough guys who think it's ok to wish injury upon a player..

 

[DaBruinz]

Both are legal. So who do you blame? Somebody playing within the rules or the guy that made the rules ?

WRONG. Aiming your helmet at someone's knees is not legal. It's intent to injure.

 

[DaBruinz]

It was an obvious cheap shot. It might be legal, but I'm betting his coaches told him to quit it, so Payton's career didn't end yesterday.

Tackling at the THIGH is not a cheap shot. And I can guarantee you that no one said a damn thing to Ayers yesterday other than to say "Nice Sack."

 

[mikey m]

Anyone who thinks these two tackles (not to mention the intent of each of the tackles) are equivalent can seriously just f*** off.

Oh and for the "Well how would YOU try to tackle Gronk?" crowd. take notes from ayers. Helmet at the waist/thigs and wrap up the legs. That's how you tackle bigger guys, not spearing the knee cap with the crown of the helmet.

 

[PATS16N0]

The two hits aren't even comparable.
WTF are you people talking about? One was a sack and one was a blatant cheap shot.

 

[Fencer]

This is bad juju.. Never wish an injury on a player regardless if the player is a POS or not.

I wish a career-ending injury on him. I wish that on very few players, and only those who have been egregiously and inexcusably harmful to others. (Including to dogs; I still hate Michael Vick.)

The wheelchair part of the comment was overstated, however.

 

[AzorianPats]

I don't wish a season ending injury on Ward, but if it happens I sure as hell won't wish him a speedy recovery.

He's a dirty player.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

WRONG. Aiming your helmet at someone's knees is not legal. It's intent to injure.

That would be incorrect. There's a reason that hit is never flagged, because its not illegal.

 

[LightSkinSmurf]

Anyone who thinks these two tackles (not to mention the intent of each of the tackles) are equivalent can seriously just f*** off.

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Oh and for the "Well how would YOU try to tackle Gronk?" crowd. take notes from ayers. Helmet at the waist/thigs and wrap up the legs. That's how you tackle bigger guys, not spearing the knee cap with the crown of the helmet.

Few things here, ayers didn't tackle gronk he tackled manning. One is a QB standing still and the other is a huge beast TE running full speed. Not exactly comparable. Its alot easier to wrap up a non moving target. Ward tackled gronk the best effective legal way he knew how. I know that's not the "popular" opinion on here, but its the truth.

 

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

You absolutely need to go low on gronk if you want to tackle him. We are all sensitive when it comes to gronks knee. He is one of the keys to us winning another superbowl.... But you can't blame ward for doing a legal hit. If anyone is to blame here it would be the NFL for allowing such a hit.

 

[letekro]

cute that we have posters in 2014 who actually believe that karma, voodoo and juju are real.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Both are legal. So who do you blame? Somebody playing within the rules or the guy that made the rules ?

Whether or not ward could be penalized for the hit will never change my mind about it being an attempted injury producing one. I absolutely blame any player that attempts to take a guy out by hurting them....especially a guy who just last year did exactly that to the same guy he went after this time. Ward knew exactly what he was trying to do and he even celebrated the hit despite it being a pretty big play by Gronk. He celebrated it because it was Gronk that he hit low....the same Gronk he ended the season for last year. Now if you want to hide behind "the rule made him do it" go ahead. I just happen to believe a rule doesn't give a hit man license to anyone just because they can get a way with it. F**k him.

 

[ausbacker]

Few things here, ayers didn't tackle gronk he tackled manning. One is a QB standing still and the other is a huge beast TE running full speed. Not exactly comparable. Its alot easier to wrap up a non moving target. Ward tackled gronk the best effective legal way he knew how. I know that's not the "popular" opinion on here, but its the truth.

I've had large disagreements with posters here who believe you shouldn't compare tackles in other sports to that of the NFL. Good tackling technique transcends sports. Ayers was an attempted and executed tackle, Ward was an attempted hit.