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Also, I guess only big plays against "good teams" count now?
That Mike Wallace, what a bum.
Yup when you beat good teams you hold trophies up in the air.
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Also, I guess only big plays against "good teams" count now?
That Mike Wallace, what a bum.
Would you agree with me based on your own argument that McCourty should be able to make the same plays in the same system?
What your missing in your break down is where he was on the field and where he ended up making the play on the ball. Double coverage is because he could read and react and make a play.
Would you agree that the last 2 SB winners had outstanding safety play, and do you think McCourty played at that level like the 4 players did?
Was this from that Pats vs Miami AFC Championship game I must've missed????Typical highlight fan. McCourty is faulted because not many balls come his way.
According to him McCourty's never made a game changing or sealing play. I guess he forgot about when McCourty kept the ball in bounds and tipped it to Cole when the score was 20-17 in the Dolphins game. Miami was at the NE 46 driving and it was on 1st and 10.
Pats take over go down the field and score 27-17 and that's the final score of the game.
As you can see if McCourty doesn't make that play Wallace more than likely catches that ball and the Dolphins would have at the very least been at the 16 yard line.
I am talking about the playoffs regular season really doesn't mean much it counts what you do in the playoffs. IE steam rolled the Jets regular season and lost to them in playoffs, what win or lose matters more? When Pollard came off the field at the end of the AFCCG two years ago he was greeted by his coach and he told Pollard he was the reason why they won the game. He destroyed Wes Welker, knocked out Ridley and caused a turnover. Ed Reed had a INT in the SB.Not if quarterbacks are clearly not throwing the ball in his general direction. They didn't need to with Steve Gregory lining up next to him and a gimply Aqib Talib.
And Harrison lined up next to who? Eugene Wilson? Would you agree that Harrison played against Payton Manning when he had a much stronger arm than he does now?
McCourty does a fine job of that as well. The problem is that the WR's that caught touchdowns against us either did it against other guys or scrubs like Marquice Cole (think the Anquan Boldin bicep flex in the end zone at Gillette) where McCourty had to come over from the other side of the field to try to stop the big play.
You watched the playoff game vs Colts last year? Luck went over the top twice.
Seattle has the best safeties in the NFL by a wide margin. McCourty is lightyears better than either Ed Reed or Bernard Pollard were in 2012.
And you are who? Are serious with "Do you actually watch football" what we like ten or something? We back in high school or something? Living in the past, No, I can just watch the Ravens from two years ago and the Seahawks from this past year and see the same type of plays. I saw two hits in the playoffs from the safety position that changed the entire game. Pollard on Wes Welker and Chancellor on the Denver WR. Making plays when it counts.
It's the same argument Pats fans, myself included, always held over Indianapolis and Manning - Brady "used" to always step up in BIG games, playoff games and Manning did not. Brady made the plays, Manning did not. McCourty needs to find a way to make the plays that win his team playoff games and Super Bowls. Through 4 or 5 seasons he has not. Perhaps he can, and I certainly hope he can, but until that time I'm not calling him "elite" or a top 2 or 3 safety in the NFL...We know what you think about McCourty. You think he has to show up in specific columns of the stat sheet, in specific games, with those plays coming at specific times to be considered a top player at his position. This idea of ranking players based on "game-altering plays" in "big games" makes no sense unless you're trying to create an ESPN Top 10 play list for the postseason. When you're basing your opinion of a player on whether any one of his snaps qualifies as a game-altering play in a big game as opposed to looking as his body of work consisting of thousands of snaps, then your system is broken.
I am talking about the playoffs regular season really doesn't mean much it counts what you do in the playoffs. IE steam rolled the Jets regular season and lost to them in playoffs, what win or lose matters more? When Pollard came off the field at the end of the AFCCG two years ago he was greeted by his coach and he told Pollard he was the reason why they won the game. He destroyed Wes Welker, knocked out Ridley and caused a turnover. Ed Reed had a INT in the SB.
My mistake. I am sure you "watch" football. But your understanding of some of it is really lacking.
Lets review:
1. You claim DMC is an average safety
2. You are asked to name better ones
3. You cant give any names of better safeties
4. You fall back on "Rodney Harrison said we needed a "better play from the safeties" when in fact what he did say is that they need a "hard hitting safety" which has nothing to do with DMC and his role.
5. You write off any good play from DMC because it was against a bad team.
You dont get it and that is ok, but dont try to come on here and tell people who live for this type of thing and consider it a hobby (posters here) that you know what you are talking about.
Okay if you read my post correctly you would have read I needed to go to work when the question was asked of me.
Okay if you read my post correctly you would have read I needed to go to work when the question was asked of me. And why would you suggest that I can't answer the question? To make a statement like that you must know my limitations on what I can and can't do.
Was this from that Pats vs Miami AFC Championship game I must've missed????
B.) Devin McCourty in his 4 or 5 year career has not made one game altering play in a big game .
The last big play from McCourty I can remember was when he picked of Ryan Fitzpatrick in the end zone to seal a win vs Buffalo in 2012...
Ravens safety play two years ago was outstanding in the playoffs and the so wasn't the Seahawks. McCourty wouldn't even have been a starter on either of those teams
I think people on this thread are missing a HUGE point here. I don't care what McCourty did against Tannerhill, all I care about is what he does vs Luck or a Manning in a AFCCG. To this point has done much of nothing.
I am pretty sure Revis has only 1 career interception in the play-offs.
He must suck.
I am pretty sure Revis has only 1 career interception in the play-offs.
He must suck.
So what's your excuse now?
The whole "so and so is a good player but he's not a playmaker" was dumb when it was being made about Mayo, and it's no less dumb now.
I can hardly think of a less prudent approach to roster-building than to lowball McCourty, as some have suggested. Pay the man his market value; he's earned it.