Cato June signs with Bucs

[danny88]

ok, well then how is losing your #2 RB a big loss?

It is not a gimme that addi will be a great full time back. He split carries in college also. The thought that none of these players are going to effect the colts performance and chemisty is laughable. Let them be in Denial about it.

The injury gods where pretty kind to indy last year. Wonder if it will be the same this year?

 

[Terry Glenn is a cowgirl]

Uhmmm... who cares????

 

[BelichickFan]

Uhmmm... who cares????

Some of us do, every solid player the Colts lose is a good thing.

 

[makewayhomer]

It is not a gimme that addi will be a great full time back. He split carries in college also. The thought that none of these players are going to effect the colts performance and chemisty is laughable. Let them be in Denial about it.

The injury gods where pretty kind to indy last year. Wonder if it will be the same this year?

chemistry is a byproduct of winning. did the Patriots have bad chemistry in 2002? or in 2005? and great chemistry in 2001, 2003, and 2004?

look, it's certainly not a gimme that Addia will be a great workhouse. but let's not confuse losing Rhodes, Stokley, Harper, and June with losing Wayne, Harrison, Dallas Clark, and Dwight Freeney

 

[Rob0729]

Personally, I feel June was overrated, but I don't think the Colts have a suitable replacement on their roster and may not get one in the draft.

I think the Colts have been weaken this offseason so far. I don't think the Colts were nearly as good of a team they were this past year than they were the year before eventhough they won the Super Bowl. They just got hot at the right time and there is no guarantee they can do it again.

I am not predicting the Colts are going to fall apart or anything, but I can see them falling from elite status and potentially being overtaken in the division if the Jags or possibly the Titans make the right moves between now and August.

 

[the taildragger]

the colts are in for rougher weather, but June won't be one of the main reasons.

June might be the softest backer in the league...pure coverage guy...as such, he was a decent fit in Indy where teams were often forced into playing catchup -- but when the offense was held in check, and you could dictate to guys like Freeney and June they morphed into a marshmallow defense. There aren't many systems that would want a one-dimensional guy like that...other than perhaps the other great offensive teams like SD/Cincy.

On the other hand a guy like Donnie Edwards, who is every bit as good in coverage as June, is far more versatile against the run as well...KC made a nice pickup there.

 

[BelichickFan]

Personally, I feel June was overrated, but I don't think the Colts have a suitable replacement on their roster and may not get one in the draft

Even if they do, every backup who becomes a starter weakens their depth - we know all about that. Make no mistake, this is a weaker team with no June, Harper or Rhodes. Even if the starting lineup isn't weakened, the team is weakened.

 

[Remix 6]

ok, well then how is losing your #2 RB a big loss?

who said it was a big loss? I never said anything about it..others say it because he was a good backup and helped a lot but its not "big" lose really..they didnt need him

 

[danny88]

chemistry is a byproduct of winning. did the Patriots have bad chemistry in 2002? or in 2005? and great chemistry in 2001, 2003, and 2004?

look, it's certainly not a gimme that Addia will be a great workhouse. but let's not confuse losing Rhodes, Stokley, Harper, and June with losing Wayne, Harrison, Dallas Clark, and Dwight Freeney

I do not think it is like losing those key players. I do think colts fans are downplaying these loses, imo.

 

[patsox23]

Colts in decline is overstated, but losing Cato June should have some tangibly significant-ish effect

 

[PatsMyBoyz!]

Uhmmm... who cares????

Probably the Pats for one. Familiarity between these 2 teams has been problematic in the past and will continue to be so as long as we keep playing them as often as we do,and have. Last year was an example of that.

 

[patchick]

Stokley, Rhodes, Harper, and now June.

I have to say, that looks like a pretty minor set of losses to me. Stokely and Rhodes were backup role players, June vastly overrated. Harper is a loss, especially given the weakness of the CB position in this draft, but he was really pretty average. I don't see it as much different from losing Graham, Banta-Cain and Dillon...and nothing compared to losing Willie, Adam and both starting receivers in one season.

 

[coltsfan]

Reported on the Profootballtalk rumormill, the Bucs have signed Cato June. Terms of the deal have yet to be announced.

Stokley, Rhodes, Harper, and now June. No money to replace them, limited draft picks (Indy traded their 2nd round pick to Tampa in the Booger McFarland deal).

Make no mistake, the Colts are in decline.

lol, this is funny, not one essential player on the list.

I'm actually very happy with the Colts' offseason so far. They re-signed Morris for his toughness and special teams player, and let everyone else go. The Colts need to use whatever little cap room they have to keep essential players like Clark and Sanders next year, and to add depth at spots like WR or DT.

 

[coltsfan]

This is a big loss. The cap situation is bad enough, nevermind the players leaving. After you restructure everyone but the cleaning staff, you are going to have just enough money to sign your draft picks... After you take care of Freeney that is.

The Colts haven't restructed anyone but Manning and Mathis, and those were expected based on how their contracts were structured to begin with.

I look at a team's cap situation by how many big mistakes they've made in terms of bad contracts given out. The only one I can think of that the Colts have is Corey Simon. We will see what happens there. So the Colts are fine.

 

[coltsfan]

as I said above, this is the only significant loss for the Colts this offseason. all those other guys didn't contribute that much to their SB run, or are replaceable

Disagree, I actually think that Harper was the best player out of the guys that they lost, and that Rhodes was probably an even bigger loss than June. I'm not sure what people were watching last year, but June played some of the softest LB play I've ever seen in the NFL. Harper at least played his position at a high level.

 

[DaBruinz]

this hurts, but the Colts decline is overrated.

Stokley barely played last year, Harper was banged up and isn't great anymore, and they already have their replacement for Rhodes.

but this is a legit loss I think.

Who is their replacement for Rhodes? Addai was the replacement for James.

While Stokely barely played last year, he still gave the Colts a legit #3 WR threat.

 

[Brady to Brown]

The Colts haven't restructed anyone but Manning and Mathis, and those were expected based on how their contracts were structured to begin with.

I look at a team's cap situation by how many big mistakes they've made in terms of bad contracts given out. The only one I can think of that the Colts have is Corey Simon. We will see what happens there. So the Colts are fine.

The Colts are in cap hell. Perhaps they can plug in players to fill these positions as someone stated earlier. But who steps in if one of those players gets injured.

 

[DaBruinz]

Joseph Addai

middle of the road RB's are replaceable. remember how big of a loss Edgerrin James was?

Addai was the replacement for James. Rhodes was already on the team.

Also, I'd like to point out that the Colts used Rhodes primarily as a 2nd half threat and Addai as a 1st half threat.

Now, Addai has to carry the load and there isn't anyone of note behind him.

 

[DaBruinz]

ok, well then how is losing your #2 RB a big loss?

When your #2 is getting 40% of your carries because your #1 can't handle them all, its easy.

Also, Rhodes was a good 3rd down back for them.

 

[coltsfan]

Personally, I feel June was overrated, but I don't think the Colts have a suitable replacement on their roster and may not get one in the draft.

I think the Colts have been weaken this offseason so far. I don't think the Colts were nearly as good of a team they were this past year than they were the year before eventhough they won the Super Bowl. They just got hot at the right time and there is no guarantee they can do it again.

I am not predicting the Colts are going to fall apart or anything, but I can see them falling from elite status and potentially being overtaken in the division if the Jags or possibly the Titans make the right moves between now and August.

Freddie Keiaho will be the starter. You may not have heard of him, but noone knew much about June, Thornton, etc when they became starters. I think Keiaho will be a much better run defender than June, at least it seems that the Colts think that way based on Dungy and the LB coach's comments on him.

I agree that the Colts weren't as good last year, and I think that's why they are making moves like letting a mediocre player like June go.