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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments."Injury prone" is an ambiguity that can't be defined or proven, so I won't address that. Welker's hit was uncommon and dirty and because of that, I'm not at all surprised Talib was hurt by it. Anyone would've been hurt by it.lol, and just like videotaping, most teams all do the same...if Talib wasnt/isnt so damn injury prone, everyone would be complaining against the Refs, but since it took Talib out (which could have happened later in the game anyways considering hes so soft) its a big controversy.Can you honestly say you were surprised Talb got injured?
Simple -- because the Pats win all the time.OT....It is absolutley stunning to me how many people hate the Pats...I run into them daily, when I ask them why they can't give me a good answer.
Straight from the NFL Rule Book:
(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:
(3) Illegally launching into a defenseless opponent. It is an illegal launch if a player (i) leaves both feet prior to contact to spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (ii) uses any part of his helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/‖hairline‖ parts) to initiate forcible contact against any part of his opponent’s body.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/2013 - Rule Book.pdf
Found on page 74 of 120.
Edelman did neither.
I think the uniform Welker's wearing would make a difference in opinion, but that's not really surprising. If Welker was still in NE and made that same hit on a Denver DB (or last year on a Ravens player), some people would say "He got away with one," some would say "It's just football" and a small group would maintain it wasn't a penalty at all.
The media narrative would be completely different, though. Instead of "BB's out of line in complaining" and "The Patriots do it, too," the story line would be "What's going to be done to stop this dirty play?"
He was never aiming or diving at the knees...it was all about the hips
This isn't the last you've heard of this. I bet you in next year's Denver game you're going to see a New England DB crush a WR even coming close to setting up a pick. Maybe they'll have someone like Duron Harmon do it, or even a linebacker like Jamie Collins. Imagine Collins crushing you at full speed when your head is looking at Manning?
That's irrelevant. It was an illegal hit, period. You can set a pick by standing in the guy's way but not initiate contact.
I was kinda wondering about that. Thanks.I hate to be lawyerly (I'm not one) but the AND in that rule is key. You can leave your feet to hit someone, but you can't use your helmet.
and that's football, would be very lame if broncos fans complained about it. Wouldn't be any sympathy from me
I don't think it's football. There would be a huge fine. We are talking about PI here. This is why Belichick said it's one of the worst plays. It would open a can of worms where DBs and WRs are hunting each other prior to a ball carrier having the ball.
Everyone knows that your head is on a swivel when someone makes a catch. Prior to that, this stuff isn't supposed to happen.
I don't think it's football. There would be a huge fine. We are talking about PI here. This is why Belichick said it's one of the worst plays. It would open a can of worms where DBs and WRs are hunting each other prior to a ball carrier having the ball.
Everyone knows that your head is on a swivel when someone makes a catch. Prior to that, this stuff isn't supposed to happen.
That's irrelevant. It was an illegal hit, period. You can set a pick by standing in the guy's way but not initiate contact.
but hits like this do happen, this isn't the first time and it's not the most egregious. What was unfortunate and put the spotlight on the hit is the injury ramification to Talib, but hits and plays should not be reffed based on injury consequences but rather there was malicious intent. players get picked all the time, i don't think it warrants this crusade.
but hits like this do happen, this isn't the first time and it's not the most egregious. What was unfortunate and put the spotlight on the hit is the injury ramification to Talib, but hits and plays should not be reffed based on injury consequences but rather there was malicious intent. players get picked all the time, i don't think it warrants this crusade.
I think I'm rooting more against Wes than I am against Peyton in the SB.
Regardless, praying for a Seattle win
Don't worry. Little Wuss Welker, everyone's favorite little engine that could, will get his. What a dink he turned into.