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Ras-IR Dowling just signed a futures contract with the Jets.






That traitor!

And Eric Kettani with the Chiefs

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I want an exact "secret" D.B. might reveal, you got one ?

Aaron Hernandez doesn't run great out routes, Brandon Lloyd is dead once you jam him at the line, and Wes Welker has a tell for his inside slants.
 
As I said I was exaggerating to make a point, obviously there is a significant difference but in essences it is the same type of thing, you turn on one group that has been good to you historically and provide potentially detrimental information to its enemy in exchange for something that may benefit you.

I understand the business world and the fact the NFL is a business still does not make it right, you cannot just say this is a business and that excuses the nature of your actions. Yes it was a business move but it was also a betrayal to the players, coaches and franchise that had given him many opportunities, throw a bow around it that a business decision if you want but it is still a traitorous move.
I have to be honest. As someone who flies a lot, reading about a pilot who get so easily riled up and also may carry a gun on a flight makes me pretty nervous.
 
His own team is now the Indianapolis Colts. They're paying him thousands of dollars, plus per diem, to play football for 1-4 weeks.

But for him "thousands of dollars" is not much. I would not do it if I was in his place. And when you consider that thousands of dollars for him is like hundreds of dollars for most of us, it seems even less enticing.

For example, if I was cut by my current employer I would not go to our arch competitor for a short time gig and relatively small money.

I get that he wants to play football and obviously it is his right to do so, but I find the whole thing pretty odd.
 
Well there's the small matter of 4,297 yards and 24 TD's.

Yeah that’s not that much when you consider how much he gained from this franchise. What Branch did is not a respectful human action, I don’t care if you call it a business. Apparently you think its ok to do something self-serving no matter how meager even if it hurts someone or something that had done right by you in the past and helped you, but since they’re not benefiting you now forget them it’s a what have you done for me lately world right Manx?
 
I have to be honest. As someone who flies a lot, reading about a pilot who get so easily riled up and also may carry a gun on a flight makes me pretty nervous.

Nah I am not that riled up brother, I am just blunt when I write things out and not that good with fluff. I think it was a turncoat move that Branch made and I think it will be something he regrets long-term, end of story the last laugh will be on him.
 
The Colts didn’t want him for 17 games and now all of sudden they do – Gee I wonder why.

Like I said if I lose my medical Delta will get rid of me, should I turn on them and sell trade secrets to other organizations? It’s just business right? Good for me I have the right to make money...

No offense but if you’re defending the move Branch is making here it implies to me that you’d do the same thing, I would not do it, I consider loyalty to be a lost trait and the main reason this society finds itself in so much ruin constantly.

As mentioned it is because the Colts don't have Heyward-Bay and need depth. Branch isn't a bad guy for depth even at this point in his career. And yes I would do the same. It has nothing to do with loyalty if our team doesn't want him. Sorry man but you are totally overreacting to this situation and making yourself an easy target for ridicule.
 
Yeah that’s not that much when you consider how much he gained from this franchise. What Branch did is not a respectful human action, I don’t care if you call it a business. Apparently you think its ok to do something self-serving no matter how meager even if it hurts someone or something that had done right by you in the past and helped you, but since they’re not benefiting you now forget them it’s a what have you done for me lately world right Manx?

Can you prove that the Patriots organisation feels hurt? This seems like mere speculation to me. The Patriots don't act out of charity. They selected and developed Branch because they thought he could help them. And whilst he was here, he did (just ask Tom Brady about Branch's value). And when the Patriots felt Branch could no longer help them, they unceremoniously dumped him. He owes the Patriots nothing.
 
Oh come on. He didn't play on the team this year and he's not very good anymore. If anything, it's a surprise Indy is that desperate.
 
Ras-IR Dowling just signed a futures contract with the Jets.

That traitor!

The comparison of a 25 year old trying to rebuild his career signing a futures contract to Deion Branch a 34 year old receiver who had earned $45 million in his NFL career, won 2 Super Bowls and was not even invited to a training camp on a NFL field this entire season signing with a the opponent of his ex-team 6 days before they match up in the divisional round of the playoffs really highlights how weak your position is on this matter.

Fans should be mad and disappointed in Branch, I am not sure if you realize that this is Patsfans.com that you’re on; Branch a player all of us cheered for and supported has made a decision that will likely result in him disclosing information that the Colts could use to game plan against us on both sides of the football. You’re not mad at Branch for that, wow that’s odd to me I can only assume that you and Branch are really good friends or you’re not actually a Patriots fan who has any interest in this team winning the game because otherwise I see no logical reason why you would be supporting someone or something that is working against the goal of this team winning..:confused:
 
Can you prove that the Patriots organisation feels hurt? This seems like mere speculation to me. The Patriots don't act out of charity. They selected and developed Branch because they thought he could help them. And whilst he was here, he did (just ask Tom Brady about Branch's value). And when the Patriots felt Branch could no longer help them, they unceremoniously dumped him. He owes the Patriots nothing.

No Manx; can you prove that it doesn’t?

They didn’t dump Branch, he is 34 years old and not smart enough to grasp the fact that his career is over. They kept him onboard longer than any other franchise would have, I didn’t see the Colts signing him during the regular season, just the week before they face the Patriots in the playoffs.

That’s about as fair weathered what have you done for me lately a statement as I have ever seen. Clearly we have a different view on appreciation, gratitude, loyalty and doing right by those who have done right by you in the past. Its best we just discontinue this conversation because it is not going to go anywhere.
 
No Manx; can you prove that it doesn’t?

They didn’t dump Branch, he is 34 years old and not smart enough to grasp the fact that his career is over. They kept him onboard longer than any other franchise would have, I didn’t see the Colts signing him during the regular season, just the week before they face the Patriots in the playoffs.

That’s about as fair weathered what have you done for me lately a statement as I have ever seen. Clearly we have a different view on appreciation, gratitude, loyalty and doing right by those who have done right by you in the past. Its best we just discontinue this conversation because it is not going to go anywhere.


I think you misunderstand the relationship between employer and employee.
 
But for him "thousands of dollars" is not much. I would not do it if I was in his place. And when you consider that thousands of dollars for him is like hundreds of dollars for most of us, it seems even less enticing.

I understand the logic when this is argument comes up, but it's not accurate. If Branch is smart, most of his earnings from his career are in accounts that can only be touched with heavy penalties before he reaches normal retirement age, and his earning potential (from wages) is severely depressed from this point forward.

For him, thousands of dollars (at a minimum, $23,000 plus a per diem and possibly a nominal signing bonus) is still thousands of dollars. That's a year of in-state tuition at a public university for a loved one. It's over 4 years of the maximum Roth IRA contribution for himself or a loved one. All for 5 days of work, 30 days at most.
 
At least we have a lot of film to help prepare for him.
 
I think you misunderstand the relationship between employer and employee.


I think whether it's rational or irrational as a Patriots fan you shouldn't be defending Branch. What Branch is doing however small is putting this team at further risk, as a fan you should not be advocating on his behalf right now if you do not agree that it was wrong than you should remain silent because theoretically all you're doing is calling to question your own loyalty as a fan when by supporting a man who is putting this teams chances at a Super Bowl at a further risk than they were yesterday.
 
No Manx; can you prove that it doesn’t?

They didn’t dump Branch, he is 34 years old and not smart enough to grasp the fact that his career is over. They kept him onboard longer than any other franchise would have, I didn’t see the Colts signing him during the regular season, just the week before they face the Patriots in the playoffs.

That’s about as fair weathered what have you done for me lately a statement as I have ever seen. Clearly we have a different view on appreciation, gratitude, loyalty and doing right by those who have done right by you in the past. Its best we just discontinue this conversation because it is not going to go anywhere.


You'd have loved Baseball's reserve clause. Would sit well with your view that a footballer has to subvert his rights for the benefit of his team. And yes we do have "a different view on appreciation, gratitude, loyalty and doing right by those who have done right by you". Mine's rational.
 
Our Secondary knows Branch as well. This choice for a WR replacement is a strange choice. Branch is a slot guy and not an "outside the numbers" guy like DHB.

I wonder what this says about their game plan (attack mid-field perhaps?) (use Hilton like Torrie Smith? and mostly accept he's going to be taken away - except on a bomb). They have a reason for choosing him in particular. It's more than his familiarity, especially with a secondary that also knows him.

I think they attack short middle, particularly with Fleener, West Coast 10 yard box style. Fleener should draw a Safety like McCourty and leave Collins in the box.
 
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