Brandon Bolden Suspended 4 Games (PED test)(Merged)

[Avenger]

Stigma and social backlash. Somebody has to think of the children right?

Opiates are legal to use with a prescription

 

[resdubwhite]

"The time" is 4 games. You were the one griping that doing "the time" wasn't enough.

And I stand by it.

He did knowlingly take a prohibited substance. He knew what he was getting into.

Still think 4 games is light.

 

[Avenger]

And I stand by it.

He did knowlingly take a prohibited substance. He knew what he was getting into.

Still think 4 games is light.

25% of the season is light? One quarter of his pay for the year? Why not just kick them out of the league and cut off their arms? You make a lot assumptions in your post.

 

[resdubwhite]

25% of the season is light? One quarter of his pay for the year? Why not just kick them out of the league and cut off their arms? You make a lot assumptions in your post.

What assumptions? I've already stated he may have felt under pressure to get healthy quick, but given that we don't know what he was found to have thats pretty much it.

And thats a concession to the player.

 

[Deus Irae]

And I stand by it.

He did knowlingly take a prohibited substance. He knew what he was getting into.

Still think 4 games is light.

You think 25% of one's salary isn't enough of a punishment for taking a sinus medication. I think that's insane.

 

[resdubwhite]

You think 25% of one's salary isn't enough of a punishment for taking a sinus medication. I think that's insane.

There are tonnes of examples where players in all fields of sports got a lot worse.

Soccer players losing 6 months for dietry suppelment.
soccer player losing 8 months for missing one test.

Cyclist losing 1 TDF and 1 season for 1/500th of a performance enhancing amount of glenbuterol in his system ( I don't buy his excuse btw either in that he got it from a contaminated piece of meat.)

now, if you are saying football is a different story and should not be treated the same as other sports we've got a conversation and definately another thread.

but if you are looking at current WADA guidelines. The punishments for footballers and Baseball player is somewhat soft.

Granted. Neither sport is IOC controlled so the guidelines come from the sports themselves.

That is where I am coming from.

 

[Deus Irae]

There are tonnes of examples where players in all fields of sports got a lot worse.

Soccer players losing 6 months for dietry suppelment.
soccer player losing 8 months for missing one test.

Cyclist losing 1 TDF and 1 season for 1/500th of a performance enhancing amount of glenbuterol in his system ( I don't buy his excuse btw either in that he got it from a contaminated piece of meat.)

now, if you are saying football is a different story and should not be treated the same as other sports we've got a conversation and definately another thread.

but if you are looking at current WADA guidelines. The punishments for footballers and Baseball player is somewhat soft.

Granted. Neither sport is IOC controlled so the guidelines come from the sports themselves.

That is where I am coming from.

Having a bunch of people/leagues around you doing really stupid things is not justification for you doing really stupid things.

Or, to put it in the manner so many of us remember from our childhood, if all the other leagues were jumping off a cliff (and many are), would the NFL?

 

[resdubwhite]

Having a bunch of people/leagues around you doing really stupid things is not justification for you doing really stupid things.

Or, to put it in the manner so many of us remember from our childhood, if all the other leagues were jumping off a cliff (and many are), would the NFL?

You think its stupid to have a zero tolerence policy on Drug use in sports.

I strongly disagree.

 

[Spiral]

Re: News: Brandon Bolden Suspended/ PEDs

Please dude. This ain't no thang. They'll just tell him to tighten up his 'training schedule', if you know what I mean. PEDs are rampant and accepted in the NFL. It's wink-wink, hush-hush nowadays, but it's present everywhere.

People look at McGwire and Bonds and say it's obvious they were roiding, well half the NFL players make McGwire and Bonds look like pop warner players. You know what I'm saying?

Rookie mistake. He'll learn once he gets into the Patriots' off-season program.

 

[Deus Irae]

You think its stupid to have a zero tolerence policy on Drug use in sports.

I strongly disagree.

A zero tolerance policy is stupid for pretty much anything. Any adult who hasn't figured that out shouldn't be allowed to make decisions above "Which shirt should I wear today?".

But zero tolerance isn't what you were griping about. You were griping that the mutually agreed upon punishment wasn't severe enough, even though it's a catch-all that makes someone who takes a sinus medication as "guilty" as someone who's caught in the act of shooting up steroids.

 

[resdubwhite]

A zero tolerance policy is stupid for pretty much anything. Any adult who hasn't figured that out shouldn't be allowed to make decisions above "Which shirt should I wear today?".

But zero tolerance isn't what you were griping about. You were griping that the mutually agreed upon punishment wasn't severe enough, even though it's a catch-all that makes someone who takes a sinus medication as "guilty" as someone who's caught in the act of shooting up steroids

Thanks for the compliment. I chose the blue and white shirt today. The reasons for having medications on the banned list is that a lot of them contain agents that mask the affects of other drug use.

Now there is nothing in this case to suggest thats what happened, just saying like.

Actually. I've changed my mind I think I'll go for that cheeky check number today.

 

[ausbacker]

25% of the season is light? One quarter of his pay for the year? Why not just kick them out of the league and cut off their arms? You make a lot assumptions in your post.

Opposed to 2 or 4 years under WADA rules? Comparatively, that suspension is a slap on the wrist by international sporting standards.

I'm not particularly fussed because those are the rules of the league and deserve to be adhered to.

 

[Deus Irae]

...The reasons for having medications on the banned list is that a lot of them contain agents that mask the affects of other drug use...

Now there is nothing in this case to suggest thats what happened, just saying like.

I know why they're on the list.

 

[PP2]

Actually, yes. When a player is suspended, he does not count against the roster.

Not in all cases.

In Talib's case, we had to be awarded a roster exception.

 

[BradyFTW!]

You think its stupid to have a zero tolerence policy on Drug use in sports.

I strongly disagree.

Zero tolerance policies are just about universally stupid (with only the rarest of exceptions).