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Who got those two first starts at the end, costing a touchdown and longer field goal?! I'll give them the blame
 
I know everyone wants to dump on Goskowski, but.......the hold was piss poor, the ball angled at about 60 degrees instead of being straight up. Gosk didn't have a chance
 
Agree that the decision to sit on the ball was horrible. You have two chances to win, why settle for one? Inside the 10 yard line, maybe the chance of a turnover exceeds the chance of a miss, but a 40 yarder is different. Not a gimme.
 
People are scared of Baltimore, but they might not even beat the Eagles.
 
Just left the game. We left early. Still glad we did hope they dont start 1-2 but i feel like we will. Oh well. Hopefully its a nice wakeup call for them
 
Who got those two first starts at the end, costing a touchdown and longer field goal?! I'll give them the blame

That would be Gronk, who tried his best to blow it
 
This forum is going to be unreadable for the next week.
 
Everyone needs to calm down

Yes, we lost this game...but it seems like we have a game like this every season, where the offense plays horrible, then turns it on in the 4th only to lose..

I remember last season after the Buffalo game(and the steelers game) this whole site was in panic about how horrible we were, we had no chance...and we seemed to do just fine after that game.

losing Hernandez sucks, but it was bound to happen at some point....this will be the 3rd season in a row he has been injured....at least it looks like Edelman is serviceable as the 3rd WR until he gets healthy...5rec, 50yards
 
A Ref did NOT want us to win that game.

The refs were letting the players play for the entire game.

Then Woodhead scores a touchdown that wouldve sealed the game in the final minute. Suddenly the ref becomes active and calls a holding on Gronkowski for something that should have never been called. You know holding happens on EVERY play, so why choose the most important play of the game to call it? And on top of that, the replay showed Gronk didn't even hold!

It's mind baffling and pathetic. Weather its personal bias or the fix was in, there is NO DOUBT that referee didn't want the Patriots to win the game.


Now everyone will say "its our own fault, the game never should've been that close anyways. We're lucky we even got that fumble recovery" Yadda yadda yadda..... whatever. We should've won fair and square. The Patriots were robbed.


Time for NFL to bring the real refs back. These replacements are costing teams games, costing playoff standings, etc.... Its a disgrace to the NFL.
 
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Coaches definitely did not put the team in the best position to win there
 
If the Pats won by 1 point or 5 points, how is that any different. You don't go for a TD. If you get a TD like that Woodhead run should have been, then so be it. But you risk turning over the ball going for more than anything more than extra yards.

I think the Pats could have picked up a few more yards by running it another time or two, but it was academic because Gostkowski would have missed the field goal from 32 yards or 22 yards.

The risk of turning it over is greater than a kicker missing a bigtime pressure kick from 42 yards out or a bad snap? I don't buy that at all. BB should've learned from other coaches who failed miserable by employing the same strategy.
 
I think that the false start by gronk changed BB's thinking.He was also worried about brady's inconsistency.

If you're going to go for a kneel down,they should have done it from a wide formation.....a 40 yd fg is no gimme,imo.
 
People are scared of Baltimore, but they might not even beat the Eagles.

They just turned it over on downs. The Eagles have the ball with the lead and 50 seconds left in the game. That should be game over.
 
It's amazing how a loss sends this place into meltdown. The team played a horrid game of football today and still had a chance to win it. How many teams can say that?
 
I guess you're right. But that speaks more about the weakness of the FA kickers.

That's true. Great kickers are like great QBs. You just don't replace them unless they're proven to be useless.

Remember Shayne Graham and the 2010 playoffs?

Neither do I :mad:
 
Yeah... Ravens fans will smile at this result.

i have a feeling that the ravens fans won't be thinking of that right now....:D
 
If the Pats won by 1 point or 5 points, how is that any different. You don't go for a TD. If you get a TD like that Woodhead run should have been, then so be it. But you risk turning over the ball going for more than anything more than extra yards.

I think the Pats could have picked up a few more yards by running it another time or two, but it was academic because Gostkowski would have missed the field goal from 32 yards or 22 yards.

I think the confidence factor between a 30 yard field goal to win and a 43 are a huge difference. Like the difference between needind 6" for a first down or a couple yards.
 
I think that the false start by gronk changed BB's thinking.He was also worried about brady's inconsistency.

If you're going to go for a kneel down,they should have done it from a wide formation.....a 40 yd fg is no gimme,imo.

The bolded part is the key, IMO. This wasn't a chip shot that BB was setting up.
 
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