edgecy
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zippo59 said:You're right, he does look like Matt Damon. And that definitely isn't a bad thing.
It is when it's Matt Damon + 100
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ctpatsfan77 said:The Pats are $10M+ under the cap, so showing Wright some love, so to speak, wouldn't require taking money away from someone else (at least not this year, and probably not next year, either).
TheBostonStraggler said:The Patriots are already showing him love. He was chosen to be a member of their organization. The guy has 1.125 seasons under his belt (15 games played over that time). A raise from the Patriots he does not yet deserve. IF he plays solid, he will get a raise in the coming years. Listen, I think your heart is in the right place. However, Wright is a on a fairly long list of unheralded but good guys who have a big heart and a bigger desire. Should we take cap space and start handing out bonuses to all these lower tier good guys? No. The Patriots don't do business this way. For better or worse (prima facia better for wins) the Patriots do not let emotion get in the way of business. It seems this is without exception. Being a good guy just isn't enough to spend (or overspend) crucial cap dollars on prematurely.
ctpatsfan77 said:The Pats are $10M+ under the cap, so showing Wright some love, so to speak, wouldn't require taking money away from someone else (at least not this year, and probably not next year, either).
patchick said:We're not talking about handing out cash out of sheer warm-hearted generosity. If you think that Wright is a long-term NFL player who will continue to improve, there's a solid business case to be made for a moderate extension now.
Wright was a UDFA. No significant signing bonus, no cushion, just the NFL minimum salary. A couple million up front could be huge for him in terms of long-term security. Meanwhile, from the Pats perspective the guy is virtually free this year and next, but becomes an RFA after next year and a UFA the year after. Remember that we're assuming the IF above holds true, so they'd expect to give him the high RFA tender.
Now suppose the likes of Koppen and Graham are determined to test free agency after this season and you have several million dollars in unspent cap space. Why not take a major chunk of the money that you would have paid Wright in 2008 & 2009 and tack it on to this season, thus securing yourself an extra couple of years from the player with no long-term cap repercussions whatsoever?
edgecy said:It is when it's Matt Damon + 100
RayClay said:Has Wright's agent been making contract demands that I'm unaware of?
I'm not worth a billion dollars, nor do I own a football team, but I would think offering players more than they might ask for isn't sound policy.
And for the record, if he came in demanding 2 Mil, I'd cut him immediately and sign Santonio in five minutes.
patchick said:Not sure where this is coming from...has anybody talked about Wright "demanding" anything? I just gave a hypothethical scenario where an extension to the player would be a business value proposition, not a "show the man some love" proposition. Obviously, I'd rather see an extension for a player like Koppen, but I don't think that a raise for a productive UDFA has to be seen as a mere handout.
RayClay said:Another poster mentioned we should pay him as much as Wilfork and
Warren and mentioned the 2 million figure.
The "demand" part was hyperbole on my part.
You did mention "A couple million up front could be huge for him in terms of long-term security."
I'm not sure, but I don't believe that is necessary to secure the services of a "marginal" player which is what he is, good attitude and nice newspaper article notwithstanding.
patchick said:Fair enough. Just to clarify what I meant, $2 mil upfront for a contract extension that would overwrite two free agent years (RFA & UFA) is very different from $2 mil per year!
RayClay said:Another poster mentioned we should pay him as much as Wilfork and Warren and mentioned the 2 million figure.
. . .
I'm not sure, but I don't believe that is necessary to secure the services of a "marginal" player which is what he is, good attitude and nice newspaper article notwithstanding.
ctpatsfan77 said:Again, I prefaced all my comments by saying that if he holds up, the Patriots should definitely think about locking him up long term. I also said I wouldn't have a problem with paying him on the order of $2M/year. Admittedly, I might be--in fact, probably am--overstating his value. I stand by Patchick's idea, though, that if the Pats think he's a valuable contributor, they'll probably want/need to sign him for more than the vet minimum in 2007.
Edit: Seeing your last post, I see that maybe I should have thought through my original post more clearly. In any case, I'm not the kind of person who's going to say the Pats *must* do anything . . . because I know they will do whatever seems the most logical way of achieving their goals (i.e., contending for an SB every year). I didn't intend to cross over into irrational exuberance (see the above paragraph).
patchick said:We're not talking about handing out cash out of sheer warm-hearted generosity. If you think that Wright is a long-term NFL player who will continue to improve, there's a solid business case to be made for a moderate extension now.
Wright was a UDFA. No significant signing bonus, no cushion, just the NFL minimum salary. A couple million up front could be huge for him in terms of long-term security. Meanwhile, from the Pats perspective the guy is virtually free this year and next, but becomes an RFA after next year and a UFA the year after. Remember that we're assuming the IF above holds true, so they'd expect to give him the high RFA tender.
Now suppose the likes of Koppen and Graham are determined to test free agency after this season and you have several million dollars in unspent cap space. Why not take a major chunk of the money that you would have paid Wright in 2008 & 2009 and tack it on to this season, thus securing yourself an extra couple of years from the player with no long-term cap repercussions whatsoever?
Anyone else here thinking a little more highly about the idea of signing Wright long-term? Certainly not Seymour money, but more than just bare minimum. . . .
Anyone else here thinking a little more highly about the idea of signing Wright long-term? Certainly not Seymour money, but more than just bare minimum. . . .