I love how his whole career Brady has had no one. Dillion, Moss, Welker, total nobodies.
He hasn't had one of the greatest coaches in NFL history his whole career either. Or good to great defenses his whole career.
Not to mention some luck (tuck rule play I'm looking right at you).
Teams win SBs, that's how Brady won the SB in 2001 despite passing for only 145 yards.
That's how they beat the Chargers in 2006 and 2007, despite Brady playing like crap.
Brady is a great QB and of course this is a NE Pats messageboard, but the fact is Brady's team kept right on going without him in 2008. They won 11 games with a guy who hadn't started since HS.
And you guys love to talk about Manning "choking" in the PO's.....Brady and the Pats have done their fair share of choking the last few years. 2005 they get killed in Denver. 2006 with a 18 point lead they lose to the Colts in the AFC Title game....they had a chance at the end...but Brady threw an INT, in 2007 they're 18-0 and they lose the SB in the biggest game in franchise history to a 10-6 WC team. 2009.....I forget what happened in 2009....maybe some of you Pats fans can remind me, I just remember Brady had kind of a subpar game. And last year they lose to the Jets....at home....after going 14-2.
As for QB ratings....have you noticed that Brady's postseason rating has been going down..straight down the last few seasons while Manning's has gone up?
Remember that used to be one of the big brags you guys used....how Brady turned up his game in the PO's? So what happened? Why has his rating gone down for so many years now? Heck, he's behind Manning now.
You guys are the biggest bunch of homer crybabies ever. Just like in 2007 you talked smack all year long nonstop...then when your team lost in the SB and this place was flooded with fans of other teams rubbing your faces in it .....the mods shut the message boards down lol.
The Pats haven't won crap in years....and suddenly MVPS and regular season records mean something to Pats fans. Remember when Manning won his MVPs and all you Pats fans were saying they didn't mean crap? I do.
The thing that really makes me laugh is you talk about how Brady had no help on offense (which is ridiculous), while ignoring that the Pats were a defensive slug it out kind of team and that they had a great D, a great QB, a great coach etc.
You act like Brady was out there winning those SBs by himself. Have you noticed since the D's not been so good Brady hasn't won much? He started of, what 9-0 in the PO's and now he's what, 14-5 and his postseason numbers continue to drop?
Really, Brady is a great QB but you guys are ridiculous.