Brady, in the MVP race?

[strngplyr]

Brady will have pedestrian stats (other than quarterback rating) but if we finish with the best record, how can you not give it to him? Manning passing Marino (if he does) won't be anything special since Rivers and Orton are likely to do it as well.

Because MVP voting is stupid and about personal accomplishments. Not bringing a team of mostly no-name first and second year picks to (possibly) the playoffs.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

Manning (5-2)
2,184 yards
15 TDs
2 INTs
101.4 Rating

Rivers (3-5)
2,649 yards
15 TDs
7 INTs
98.9 Rating

Brady (6-1)
1,602 yards
12 TDs
4 INTs
96.6 Rating

Brees (5-3)
2,334 yards
16 TDs
11 INTs
92.6 Rating

Rodgers (5-3)
2,011 yards
12 TDs
9 INTs
85.3 Rating

Only way Manning doesn't win this year is if the Colts don't make the playoffs. He's had years when he hasn't deserved it (see: 2008) but he's clearly the #1 guy at the half way point so far.

 

[Haterproof]

Brady will have pedestrian stats (other than quarterback rating) but if we finish with the best record, how can you not give it to him? Manning passing Marino (if he does) won't be anything special since Rivers and Orton are likely to do it as well.

I don't give a lovely you know what about the MVP award. If Brady wins it, he wins it. If he doesn't. Whoopty doo. I actually hopes Manning does win it. I've a funny feeling Brady is going 2 take it all this year.

 

[BritPat]

Jeez, is this what we've become?

Superbowl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MVP. You can bet your ass Brady wants to win the first a million times more than the second.

 

[RodThePat]

Manning (5-2)
2,184 yards
15 TDs
2 INTs
101.4 Rating

Rivers (3-5)
2,649 yards
15 TDs
7 INTs
98.9 Rating

Brady (6-1)
1,602 yards
12 TDs
4 INTs
96.6 Rating

Brees (5-3)
2,334 yards
16 TDs
11 INTs
92.6 Rating

Rodgers (5-3)
2,011 yards
12 TDs
9 INTs
85.3 Rating

Only way Manning doesn't win this year is if the Colts don't make the playoffs. He's had years when he hasn't deserved it (see: 2008) but he's clearly the #1 guy at the half way point so far.

Manning had worse stats than like 4 guys last year. Same for 2008. Voters don't really look exclusively stats. If the Patriots win more games than the Colts, the MVP is Brady's to lose. People will look how young the team is, the injuries to some key players and, more importantly, the lack of big time weapons in the passing game. Brady has a huge shot at being MVP, but that all depends on the Patriots' success.

To illustrate the point, both Peter King and Don Banks have Brady as their MVP so far.

 

[jmt57]

For those that care about who wins the MVP, some comments from the media:

It Is What It Is Peter King on D&H: Only Bill Belichick can handle Randy Moss

How does Tom Brady make your midseason MVP but not your midseason All-Pro team?

To me, I think it’s arguable that Peyton Manning has played better in the first half of the season but that Tom Brady has been more valuable to the best team in football in the first half of the season. And at the end of the day — I finished this Sunday morning at about 7:30 or 8 in the morning. I could have changed after Sunday’s games if I had wanted to, but I didn’t. I couldn’t go back in with the Monday night game. I just think that Manning has been absolutely terrific, as usual, and has had a great passing season and a great season orchestrating what he’s had to do in Indianapolis with a new offensive coordinator.

Whereas Brady, I think his value has rarely if ever been higher to the Patriots, because he’s gotten five new receivers up to speed while having the whole Moss thing go haywire. I realize it’s a very subjective thing. At the end of the day, I sort of wanted to honor each guy, because I think each of them had been tremendous in the first half of the season.

NFL MVP watch: Tom Brady, Peyton Manning face off head-to-head - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com
Brady, Manning and Roddy White are Sean Leahy's top three contenders.

Tom Brady, Patriots QB: The three-time Super Bowl winner has been the foundation around which the Patriots have rebuilt their offense this season. No longer is the gameplan centered on the dual threat of Wes Welker and the departed Randy Moss. Brady has weaved in rookie TEs Aaron Hernandez (29 catches) and Rob Gronkowski (three TDs). He's absorbed the loss of RBs Fred Taylor and Kevin Faulk to injuries with unheralded players Danny Woodhead and BenJarvus Green-Ellis. And he's posted his typical top-line numbers (65.3% completions, 1,602 passing yards, 12 TDs, 96.6 rating) while leading the Patriots to an NFL-best record of 6-1. In an era of change (especially on defense) in New England, Brady -- who has led the Pats to an NFL-best scoring average of 29.3 -- is the biggest reason the team is in contention.

2010 NFL Midseason Report includes awards, story of year - Don Banks - SI.com

• MOST VALUABLE PLAYER -- Tom Brady, QB, New England: With Randy Moss taking his Hall of Fame act elsewhere, Brady is back to winning with smoke and mirrors once again. In this case, the smoke is named Danny Woodhead and BenJarvus Green-Ellis and the mirrors are Deion Branch, Wes Welker, Brandon Tate and rookie Aaron Hernandez. Nobody does more with less than Brady, whose 12 touchdowns, four interceptions and 96.6 passer rating don't tell the whole story.
Kudos to: Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis.

 

[TBradyOwnsYou]

I don't give a lovely you know what about the MVP award. If Brady wins it, he wins it. If he doesn't. Whoopty doo. I actually hopes Manning does win it. I've a funny feeling Brady is going 2 take it all this year.

I just had to comment. Your grammar was spectacular. Punctuation, proper spelling... it was beautiful to read. Then you used the number 2 as the word "to" and you seriously made me re-read your post like 4 times in a row. I congratulate you sir. I've not had mental whiplash like that in a long time!!
I also agree 100% with your statement.
I hope Manning wins the next 500 MVP awards in a row as they don't mean jackdick and he can sit and polish them every year on Super Sunday since he won't be playing!

 

[emoney_33]

MVP is the stupidest award that exists. It is stupid because people take the V and put subjective team-oriented meaning into it. Just take what Peter King said

To me, I think it’s arguable that Peyton Manning has played better in the first half of the season but that Tom Brady has been more valuable to the best team in football in the first half of the season.

That makes little to no ACTUAL sense. Value is NOT about how good or bad your team's perceived talent is combined with how good your team's win/loss is. The value of an INDIVIDUAL is precisely how good that individual has played. If Peter King feels Manning has played better than Brady in 2010, then Manning should be MVP. If Peter King feels Brady has played better than Manning, then Brady should be MVP.

The fact that there can be different "best player" and "MVP" is probably the most illogical thing in sports today. In baseball Alex Rodriguez should have won MVP for about 10 straight years, but instead others got an individual award based on the TEAM's end result.

 

[PatsFan24]

Brady is in the race, Manning is probably the leader right now though.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

Rivers (4-5)
19 TDs
8 INTs
2,944 yards
102.9 Rating

Manning (5-3)
16 TDs
4 INTs
2,478 yards
96.1 Rating

Brady (6-2)
14 TDs
4 INTs
1,826 yards
95.7 Rating

Brees (6-3)
18 TDs
12 INTs
2,587 yards
91.7 Rating

Rodgers (6-3)
15 TDs
9 INTs
2,250 yards

If the season ended today, Brady would get it. Manning and Rivers wouldn't be in the playoffs.

The fact that there can be different "best player" and "MVP" is probably the most illogical thing in sports today. In baseball Alex Rodriguez should have won MVP for about 10 straight years, but instead others got an individual award based on the TEAM's end result.

How the hell can you say the guy on a last-place team is the most valuable? They would be a last place team without him, therefore his "value" is non-exist ant.

It IS called most valuable player, not "best" player.

 

[jcdavey]

rivers deserves it, given what he's doing, with what he's got to work with, and the fact that 5 of his ints were tipped by his less than stellar wrs

 

[jcdavey]

oh and also, rivers deserves it because his 5 losses, are by a combined less score than brady's one loss to the browns lol

 

[Sciz]

If(chargers_in_playoffs) {
Then(Rivers==MVP)
}
Else If(colts_in_playoffs) {
Then(Manning==MVP)
}
Else If (pats_in_playoffs) {
Then(Brady==MVP)
}

Forgive me if my java skills are a little rusty. You should get the point

 

[patsfan-1982]

right now i say Drew Brees, is the MVP he only has 300 yerds less passing and 1 less TD then Philip Rivers, and the saints are 6-3 not 4-5

 

[Kontradiction]

rivers deserves it, given what he's doing, with what he's got to work with, and the fact that 5 of his ints were tipped by his less than stellar wrs

I'm not the biggest Rivers fan in the world, but I fully agree with this. He's playing lights out this year with a receiving corps that makes our's look like the Greatest Show on Turf. Rivers fully deserves the MVP, if he keeps it up. However, even if he does finish the season on a roll, it will still go to Manning.

 

[jcdavey]

I'm not the biggest Rivers fan in the world, but I fully agree with this. He's playing lights out this year with a receiving corps that makes our's look like the Greatest Show on Turf. Rivers fully deserves the MVP, if he keeps it up. However, even if he does finish the season on a roll, it will still go to Manning.

that's the sad truth

rivers could put up brady's 50 td year stats and lose an mvp race to peyton

peyton's the nfl's poster boy

 

[emoney_33]

How the hell can you say the guy on a last-place team is the most valuable? They would be a last place team without him, therefore his "value" is non-exist ant.

It IS called most valuable player, not "best" player.

Very simply because I have a RATIONAL definition of an individual's VALUE to a team, while you have a ridiculous team-oriented definition of it.

 

[jcdavey]

i'm pretty amazed that rodney harrison picked rivers as the midseason mvp...that guy HATES san diego haha

 

[Uncle Rico]

If(chargers_in_playoffs) {
Then(Rivers==MVP)
}
Else If(colts_in_playoffs) {
Then(Manning==MVP)
}
Else If (pats_in_playoffs) {
Then(Brady==MVP)
}

Forgive me if my java skills are a little rusty. You should get the point

Nice! Thought this was ActionScript for a second. Then I could say these guys just need to goToAndPlay("theRestofTheSeason").

On topic: I wonder if this could be one of the years where a guy like Rivers gets Offensive Player of the Year, and someone else (Brady!) gets MVP.

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

There is NO WAY Rivers is the MVP right now. His team is 4-5.

They need to win their division for him to win.

Brady has the best combination of stats and wins.