Ricky Sapp blogs on private workout with the Patriots

[DaBruinz]

Re: Ricky sapp bloggs on private work out with the patriots.

shouldn't the status of a private workout stay in private. 1 question do NFL teams have to make it known who they are working out?? If not...... this whole private BS is a one way street. Privacy should work both ways.

All a "PRIVATE WORKOUT" is is one where other teams aren't present to view the player. Him talking about it won't reveal how he did. It doesn't reveal technique or anything like that.

Why is it that people have to see BS where there is none?

 

[Warren94]

Sapp stinks.. Gets overpowered easily in the running game. Round 3-4 fine not the first round.

 

[VJCPatriot]

No it wasn't negative, but I believe this was the first player to acknowledge anything from the team's private workouts as of yet.

But I think the team frowns on just about ANYTHING that is on Twitter or other media based stuff relating to the team and its methods.

Ask BB of how much he would rather tell the media to go fu(k themselves than have to go to the podium after every game and we all know how much info he gives to the media on things like injuries and player misconducts,this team is as private as it gets.

Vince Wilfork uses Twitter. If BB so highly disapproves of that, I doubt the Patriots would have resigned him to the RICHEST contract for a NT EVER!

What METHOD was revealed other than the workout lasted 6 hours? NOTHING!!

You're blowing this way out of proportion and have no leg to stand on.

Darius Butler uses Twitter too. Should we cut him as well? The paranoia on this board boggles my mind.

 

[jefmblrd]

I see nothing wrong with what Sapp did, and I appreciate the detail that he spent six hours with the Pats. I read somewhere else that the Pats had Dexter McCluster working up at the board during his workout. Just shows they're doing their due diligence.

 

[Marqui]

Sapp stinks.. Gets overpowered easily in the running game. Round 3-4 fine not the first round.

I don't think he stinks but otherwise your right.

 

[Warren94]

marqui,

you're right he doesn't stink he is probably a great guy. poor choice of words by me.

 

[DocE]

Give the kid a break, he didn't divulge any details of the workout other than the length and the fact that he felt like the Patriots liked him. I would bet money the rest of the league is aware that the Patriots run long individual workouts.

 

[PowerRunRevival]

The only problem I have with this article is when the author states that a 1st round pick needs to be used to get Sapp. I don't think he will go in the first and I would not be happy if that's where we pick him.

 

[lostjumper]

The only problem I have with this article is when the author states that a 1st round pick needs to be used to get Sapp. I don't think he will go in the first and I would not be happy if that's where we pick him.

Agreed. I'd love him at 44, but the first round may be a bit high. And it may happen. This draft is so team in so many places that Sapp could still be on the board in the middle of the 2nd round.

 

[Warren94]

Agreed. I'd love him at 44, but the first round may be a bit high. And it may happen. This draft is so team in so many places that Sapp could still be on the board in the middle of the 2nd round.

I think Sapp will be there in the 3rd or fourth round.

 

[BritPat]

It Is What It Is Sapp dreaming for his chance with Patriots

 

[Marqui]

It Is What It Is Sapp dreaming for his chance with Patriots

I like Sapp but I think the Pats need a SOLB more than a weakside guy at this point. At least we have a couple of options at WOLB with Cain and Crable, but we have absolutely nothing at SOLB.

 

[Nonentity]

I like Sapp but I think the Pats need a SOLB more than a weakside guy at this point. At least we have a couple of options at WOLB with Cain and Crable, but we have absolutely nothing at SOLB.

We need new players at both positions. TBC is too weak against the run on early downs for my liking, and we can't depend on Crable.

In 2008 we had Vrabel and Adalius Thomas at these spots. We haven't properly replaced either, and we need to.

 

[Marqui]

We need new players at both positions. TBC is too weak against the run on early downs for my liking, and we can't depend on Crable.

In 2008 we had Vrabel and Adalius Thomas at these spots. We haven't properly replaced either, and we need to.

I agree the Pats need to fill both positions, I just feel that SOLB is more of a priority and the Pats should use one of their first two picks on someone like Graham or Hardy. Then use 53 (or get an early 3rd rounder to use) on Sapp. But it doesn't really matter what order they get SOLB/WOLB in as long as they get both.

 

[tanked_as_usual]

Re: Ricky sapp bloggs on private work out with the patriots.

All a "PRIVATE WORKOUT" is is one where other teams aren't present to view the player. Him talking about it won't reveal how he did. It doesn't reveal technique or anything like that.

Why is it that people have to see BS where there is none?

because it the patriots........and the notion that nobody elses money is green

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

I like Sapp but I think the Pats need a SOLB more than a weakside guy at this point. At least we have a couple of options at WOLB with Cain and Crable, but we have absolutely nothing at SOLB.

There are plenty of edge rushers later in the draft who are strong against the run, I've got two I'd like who are projected as UDFAs - if BB thinks Sapp has the tools to play well in reverse and going forward, and do it around 260 after Coach Woicik bulks him up, then I'm good with that.

 

[Marqui]

There are plenty of edge rushers later in the draft who are strong against the run, I've got two I'd like who are projected as UDFAs - if BB thinks Sapp has the tools to play well in reverse and going forward, and do it around 260 after Coach Woicik bulks him up, then I'm good with that.

Not sure what you're saying here. You think the Pats can get a starting caliber SOLB in undrafted free agency? Also I like Sapp too and I want the Pats to draft him, but he's not a SOLB even if he bulks up.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Not sure what you're saying here. You think the Pats can get a starting caliber SOLB in undrafted free agency? Also I like Sapp too and I want the Pats to draft him, but he's not a SOLB even if he bulks up.

Define SOLB? Mike Vrabel was 6'4" (or less when you factor in how NE's published rosters round up) 260.

Sapp is already in that ballpark, he just hasn't learned to sink his hips and lock his arms out - the same thing Mayo and Guyton have been learning. Sapp was asked to pin his ears back and run the edge, so he's got a lot to learn, but he's demonstrated the athleticism and work habits to get it done.

Koa Misi, bulked back up to 260, can come in and play either OLB, and in time ILB. I watched my DVR'd Poinsettia Bowl the other night and saw Misi jack LT Mike Tepper backwards, Tepper will play on Sundays, at least as a reserve. Eric Norwood, bulked back up to 260, can do the same - Misi and Norwood are mid-2 to 3rd round kids. Daniel Te'o-Nesheim is another one.

UDFA projections Barry Turner and Frank Zombo are a couple strong kids whom I'd love to see in camp, I think either could develop behind Burgess and Banta-Cain and be good OLBs. Turner I've seen drop in coverage, Zombo is a converted high school TE who was worked as a TE at his Pro-Day in addition to DE/OLB. Alex Daniels is a late round projection who has played LB, RB, 4-3 DE, and 3-4 DE - NE worked him out on campus.

You've expressed an interest in drafting Dunlap and Hardy earlier, both of whom have flashed incredible talent, but both come with caution flags. I've taken them off my board because their questions are serious enough, but not within my ability to answer with the information available to fans - like Meriweather, BB will have better answers and can make that call.

If NE wants to draft a kid like Sapp or Hughes who will go earlier, kids who don't have the caution flags, just gaps in their strength/technique, then I'd like to see them also take a mid-round and a late round/UDFA project. Spread the risk out, while increasing the competition.

 

[Marqui]

Define SOLB? Mike Vrabel was 6'4" (or less when you factor in how NE's published rosters round up) 260.

There's more to playing SOLB than weight. They have to have great stack & shed technique and they obviously have to be strong since they're usually facing more blockers. Weighing 260 does not always mean you're strong enough to set the edge. Cain weighs about that much and he's terrible at it, even on the weakside. Expecting Sapp to go from not being able to set the weakside edge in college to setting the strongside edge in the NFL seems like wishful thinking at best.

You've expressed an interest in drafting Dunlap

Good lord, no. I think Dunlap is will the biggest bust in this entire draft. As for Hardy, his only real question is health.

 

[jays52]

1) Let's chill on the WOlB, WILB, SILB, SOLB stuff. The positions are Joker/Jack, Will, Mike, and Sam. Semantics, I know, but agitating nonetheless.

2) The Sam backer in the 34 is typically a little easier to find than the Joker. Your Joker is your playmaker, much like your Will, and as such is generally your best athlete outside. Sapp and Hughes are my two guys there.

3) With the proliferation of the spread, 3 safety sets are becoming more abundant. Accordingly, the Sam linebacker is no longer required to be the TE killer he used to be. It's easy to find a nimble, decent pass rusher who can engage. It's not easy to find a guy with all world first step explosion and DB hips like Hughes.

4) The pass rush moves detraction is caused primarily by the player's athleticism. Players with strong work ethics and incomplete sets of moves are above their level of competition. Example: Reggie White. He really only needed 1.5 moves to be succesful. When the levels balance, and the player is required to hone their moves, they will come into their own.

5) Arguing with Box is bad strategy. The guy knows his stuff as well as anyone.