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22. Jason Pierre Paul -OLB
44. Kyle Wilson -CB
47. Terrance Cody -NT
53. Jared Veldeer -OT
116. Ben Tate -RB
180. Antonio Brown -WR
213. Jim Dray -TE
253. Doug Worthington- DL
254. Danny Batten -LB/DE
255. Trindon Holliday-KR/PR
256. Robert Malone- P
 
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"Konz intrigues me, his projected straight line speed is WR fast and he's big WR sized, yet Kent State used him as a TE - I wonder if he has any wiggle and how good his hands are, he could be a nice big intermediate/deep target to draw coverage off Moss if his hands, wiggle, and mind check out."


Don't go by the way Kent State used Konz. They started him out at LB and DE for 3 years, then switched him to TE until he injured his ankle against Boston College in the 1st game of 2008. They finally put him at WR/H-back for his senior year after he was red-shirted for the injury.

With his low 4.4s speed (he actually ran a 4.38 in the spring of 2008 for NFL scouts), it's clear he should have been playing on offense the entire time in college. Kent State had very few WRs who could run decent routes or catch the ball while Edelman was the QB, which is why Edelman was always scrambling out of the pocket running for his life.

Jameson Konz is now 6-3, 240. He really has only played the WR/TE position for 1 year, and that was with a true freshman at QB last year for Kent State, so his numbers don't look that great. But with his combination of speed and strength (28-30 reps on the bench) he could present match up nightmares for opposing NFL defensive coaches.
Thanks for weighing in. Poor hands might limit someone's offensive participation, can you speak to how well he does when the ball is in his vicinity? How well does he do his job of being where the QB needs him?
 
First, my trades, strictly according to the draft value chart:

1. Trade down from 22 to 33 and receive 78
2. Trade 44 + 47 for 32 and 60
3. Trade 53 and 116 for 45
4. Trade 78, 180 and 213 for 71
5. Trade 87 for 99 and 119

So, my picks:

32. OLB Brandon Graham
33. DE Jared Odrick
45. ILB Brandon Spikes
60. WR Arrelious Benn
71. G Joe Asamoah
99. WR Mardy Gilyard
119. TE Colin Peek
 
22 44 47 53 - 116 - 180 213

22. JPP
44. Mount. Cody
47. Dexter McCluster
53. Arrelious Benn
118. Ben Tate
180. Myron Rolle
213. John Skelton
 
Using the scout.com ratings:

#22 Devin McCourty CB, RUT on the rise some- think a shut down corner ala Revis

#44. Brandon Spikes, ILB, Fla working with Mayo should free Mayo to blitz more up the middle and move Guyton to OLB with his speed

#47 Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU can't pass him up

#57 Mike Johnson- OG , ALA Neals replacement Alt Ben Tate RB


#116 Thaddeus Gibson OLB, OSU Boom or bust prospect
#180 Danario Alexander WR, MO Could be a steal - Rolle still on the board?
#123 Matt Dodge P, ECU why not?
 
22 44 47 53 - 116 - 180 213
22-JPP, there's no way he lasts to us though, if not I'd take Everson Griffen on this list
44-Dexter McCluster
47-Arrelious Benn
53-Austen Lane
116-Geno Atkins
180-Zoltan Mesko
213-Kevin Thomas
 
Do not Want Pierre Paul I don't think he has the football inteligence or desire to make it in our defense, think a poor mans dwight freeney.
 
Trade 22 and #180. Move to #28 and Pick up #91

#53 down to #62, #126, #158.
#44 + #116 to get up to #39
158 + 213 for #169 and #201
Leaves:
28, 39, 47, 62, 91, 126, 169, 180, 201.

#28 - Jared Odrick, DT
#39 - Brandon Spikes, ILB
#47 - Vlad Ducasse, OL.
#62 - Matt Tennant, C.
#91 - Mardy Gilyard, WR
#126 - George Selvie, DE/OLB
#169 - Nate Byham, TE
#180 - Myron Rolle, S
#201 - Zoltan Mesko, P

Compensatory Picks:
#1 - Brandon Banks WR/KR
#2 - Nyaz Boateng WR.
#3 - Walter McFadden, CB.
 
First, my trades, strictly according to the draft value chart:

1. Trade down from 22 to 33 and receive 78
2. Trade 44 + 47 for 32 and 60
3. Trade 53 and 116 for 45
4. Trade 78, 180 and 213 for 71
5. Trade 87 for 99 and 119

So, my picks:

32. OLB Brandon Graham
33. DE Jared Odrick
45. ILB Brandon Spikes
60. WR Arrelious Benn
71. G Joe Asamoah
99. WR Mardy Gilyard
119. TE Colin Peek

This is what i love about the trade down it just shows you the level of talent that can be aquired with a bit of movement either up or down
 
Trade: #22 (780) to Vikings for #30 (620) + #93 (128) + #157 (28.6). Our 1st for their 1st, 3rd, and 5th. Trading back to gain value as BB often does.

#30 Jared Odrick DE. 6'5 304. Big, long man who can man the 3-4 DE position for the Pats. The front 3 continues to be the focal point of the Pats defense.

Trade: #44 (460) + Adalius Thomas to the Raiders for #39 (510). Adalius Thomas is valued at 70 pts = mid 4th round pick #112. Keeps AD out of the Jets hands, and revisits our old trading partners.

#39 Jahvid Best RB. 5'10 199. Best doesn't just have blazing speed (4.35 40), he changes directions and shifts gears on a dime (top RB 3 cone at 6.75). Best provides a dynamic runner for the Pats offense. He can also contribute immediately in the kick return game. As long as he learns to pass block quickly, he should be a big piece of the puzzle for the Pats aging RB stable.

#47 Jerry Hughes OLB. 6'2 255. Best available passrusher. Outstanding leg drive and explosive first step. 4.69 40 among top DL but even more impressive 4.15 20 yard shuttle has him ranked as the most agile DL at the combine. Height is the main concern here. He does have 33" arms though, and that helps.

Trade: #53 (370) to the Chiefs for #68 (250) + #99 (104). Trading out of the second in a deep draft to acquire a 3rd and 4th round pick from our old friend Pioli.

#68 Mike Johnson OG. 6'5 306. Big strong guard from Alabama. He has been coached in Saban's system so he should understand the Pats offense and terminology. Just the kind of guy to plug in for Neal if he ends up retiring or even if he doesn't since he is often injured.

Trade: #93 to the Saints for #127 and a future 3rd round pick.
Picking up a 4th in this year's draft and adding to the draft ammo stockpile in 2011.

#99 Jimmy Graham TE. 6'6 260. Big, strong, athletic, fast TE. 4.56 40 at the combine. A high upside player with a basketball background. Yet another high profile, high potential TE coming out from the U.

#116 Andre Roberts WR. 5'11 195 lbs. Very productive college receiver who also impressed with his performance at the Senior bowl. Showed adequate straight line speed with a 4.46 40 and above average 3 cone (6.77) and 20 yard shuttle times (4.15). Could turn into an all around receiver for the Pats depending on how quickly he can pick up their complex offensive system.

#127 Austen Lane DE/OLB. 6'6 267. Lane did not put up numbers at the combine outside of his measurement. His size is intriguing and he had an excellent Senior bowl, topping off his performance with a forced fumble, and recovery for TD. A good developmental 'lottery ticket' at this stage in the draft.

#157 Kam Chancellor S. 6'3 231 lbs. Although safety is a position of strength, Chancellor is an excellent physical specimen who lined up some vicious hits at the East-West Shrine game and practices. He can contribute early as a hard hitting special teamer and possible goal line safety.

#180 Marcus Easley WR. 6'3 212. This big, strong Huskie impressed by running a 4.46 40 at his size. He provides a big, tall red zone target. His 10'3 broad jump is indicative of an explosive leaper. Perhaps Darius Butler can help his fellow Huskie acclimate faster to the 'Patriots Way'.

#213 Clifton Geathers DE. 6'7 299. BB likes to double up on positions of need. Geathers has the prototypical size for a 3-4 DE and has NFL bloodlines. Coming out of USC's big school program doesn't hurt either since the competition level he faced would generally be higher.

Since the following picks are untradable, we'll use them all.

#253 Stevenson Sylvester LB. 6'2 231. Sylvester impressed me with his speed and smoothness in open space. He would make a nice coverage linebacker and special teamer. His size prevents him from being a starter in the Pats system however.

#254 George Selvie LB. 6'3 252. Selvie has the kind of length that BB likes in an OLB, he also has very long arms for his size at 34". He appears to have some pass rush potential and might be a late round steal much like TBC.

#255 Chris Scott OG. 6'4 319. Scott played LT at the college level, but I'm not sure he has the agility to be a tackle at the pro level. Still he offers a great deal of flexibility and has played all 5 OL positions for Tennessee. Scott has decent arm length for the position at 34 1/8 and could be just the type of lineman that Dante can mold into a useful piece. He is a powerful blocker who projects to the interior line.

#256 Zoltan Mesko P. Really, any punter will do for competition here, but the Pats have been seen interviewing Mesko so apparently their interest is peaked. That's good enough for me. Welcome to the team, Mr. Irrelevant!
 
Trade: #22 (780) to Vikings for #30 (620) + #93 (128) + #157 (28.6). Our 1st for their 1st, 3rd, and 5th. Trading back to gain value as BB often does.

#30 Jared Odrick DE. 6'5 304. Big, long man who can man the 3-4 DE position for the Pats. The front 3 continues to be the focal point of the Pats defense.

Trade: #44 (460) + Adalius Thomas to the Raiders for #39 (510). Adalius Thomas is valued at 70 pts = mid 4th round pick #112. Keeps AD out of the Jets hands, and revisits our old trading partners.

#39 Jahvid Best RB. 5'10 199. Best doesn't just have blazing speed (4.35 40), he changes directions and shifts gears on a dime (top RB 3 cone at 6.75). Best provides a dynamic runner for the Pats offense. He can also contribute immediately in the kick return game. As long as he learns to pass block quickly, he should be a big piece of the puzzle for the Pats aging RB stable.

#47 Jerry Hughes OLB. 6'2 255. Best available passrusher. Outstanding leg drive and explosive first step. 4.69 40 among top DL but even more impressive 4.15 20 yard shuttle has him ranked as the most agile DL at the combine. Height is the main concern here. He does have 33" arms though, and that helps.

Trade: #53 (370) to the Chiefs for #68 (250) + #99 (104). Trading out of the second in a deep draft to acquire a 3rd and 4th round pick from our old friend Pioli.

#68 Mike Johnson OG. 6'5 306. Big strong guard from Alabama. He has been coached in Saban's system so he should understand the Pats offense and terminology. Just the kind of guy to plug in for Neal if he ends up retiring or even if he doesn't since he is often injured.

Trade: #93 to the Saints for #127 and a future 3rd round pick.
Picking up a 4th in this year's draft and adding to the draft ammo stockpile in 2011.

#99 Jimmy Graham TE. 6'6 260. Big, strong, athletic, fast TE. 4.56 40 at the combine. A high upside player with a basketball background. Yet another high profile, high potential TE coming out from the U.

#116 Andre Roberts WR. 5'11 195 lbs. Very productive college receiver who also impressed with his performance at the Senior bowl. Showed adequate straight line speed with a 4.46 40 and above average 3 cone (6.77) and 20 yard shuttle times (4.15). Could turn into an all around receiver for the Pats depending on how quickly he can pick up their complex offensive system.

#127 Austen Lane DE/OLB. 6'6 267. Lane did not put up numbers at the combine outside of his measurement. His size is intriguing and he had an excellent Senior bowl, topping off his performance with a forced fumble, and recovery for TD. A good developmental 'lottery ticket' at this stage in the draft.

#157 Kam Chancellor S. 6'3 231 lbs. Although safety is a position of strength, Chancellor is an excellent physical specimen who lined up some vicious hits at the East-West Shrine game and practices. He can contribute early as a hard hitting special teamer and possible goal line safety.

#180 Marcus Easley WR. 6'3 212. This big, strong Huskie impressed by running a 4.46 40 at his size. He provides a big, tall red zone target. His 10'3 broad jump is indicative of an explosive leaper. Perhaps Darius Butler can help his fellow Huskie acclimate faster to the 'Patriots Way'.

#213 Clifton Geathers DE. 6'7 299. BB likes to double up on positions of need. Geathers has the prototypical size for a 3-4 DE and has NFL bloodlines. Coming out of USC's big school program doesn't hurt either since the competition level he faced would generally be higher.

Since the following picks are untradable, we'll use them all.

#253 Stevenson Sylvester LB. 6'2 231. Sylvester impressed me with his speed and smoothness in open space. He would make a nice coverage linebacker and special teamer. His size prevents him from being a starter in the Pats system however.

#254 George Selvie LB. 6'3 252. Selvie has the kind of length that BB likes in an OLB, he also has very long arms for his size at 34". He appears to have some pass rush potential and might be a late round steal much like TBC.

#255 Chris Scott OG. 6'4 319. Scott played LT at the college level, but I'm not sure he has the agility to be a tackle at the pro level. Still he offers a great deal of flexibility and has played all 5 OL positions for Tennessee. Scott has decent arm length for the position at 34 1/8 and could be just the type of lineman that Dante can mold into a useful piece. He is a powerful blocker who projects to the interior line.

#256 Zoltan Mesko P. Really, any punter will do for competition here, but the Pats have been seen interviewing Mesko so apparently their interest is peaked. That's good enough for me. Welcome to the team, Mr. Irrelevant!

I absolutely love this....Someone tell BB to read this NOW
 
I absolutely love this....Someone tell BB to read this NOW

I'm glad that you liked it. :) I tried to play the draft like BB would, trading back and picking up extra pick value when there weren't guys I really wanted at where I was picking, or trading back and picking up future picks. This is just how the draft unfolded for me because of the rankings.

Also I had the luxury of knowing EXACTLY who will be available and when they will be available, making the tradebacks land me exactly on the players I wanted to get. BB won't have that luxury in the real draft, it's going to be a lot more unpredictable and harder to peg when a player you want is going to go. So I expect the real draft to be a lot less 'perfect', but in an ideal world, this is how I would hope the draft would turn out. :D
 
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Thanks for weighing in. Poor hands might limit someone's offensive participation, can you speak to how well he does when the ball is in his vicinity? How well does he do his job of being where the QB needs him?

There really isn't much game film to answer your question completely. Jameson Konz got injured in the 1st quarter of the first game of 2008 against Boston College. In 2009, he switched from TE to H-back/WR, so he played 3/4 different positions in 3 straight seasons (LB, DE, TE, WR/H-back).

In 2009 he started out primarily as a blocking WR, and it wasn't until mid season that he got more involved in the passing game. As I mentioned before, Kent State's starting QB got injured and was replaced by a true freshman QB. There were times when Konz was open and didn't have the ball thrown his way and times when the freshman QB simply missed the throw.

What sticks in my mind is a comment I heard when I watched a clip of Taylor Mays running the 40 at the NFL combine. The commentators were talking about how well he is built combined with his speed and athleticism and the one guy said something to the effect, "with his physical build and speed, you can work with a guy like that."

I'm not comparing Mays to Konz as players, but if you look just at their size, speed, strength, athleticism, they have a lot in common. I've been looking at the bench reps of some of the LBs and TEs from the combine and many of them don't compare to Konz (he'll probably put up 28+ reps when he does his pro day at Kent State).

As long as a player has the desire and willingness to put in the long hours in order to succeed, then you can take a player like Jameson Konz and work with him, even if he isn't the "finished product" coming out of college. By all accounts he has a good head on his shoulders and is willing to do what it takes to move to the next level.
 
Thank you! In my interweb meandering I encountered a purported Charlie Weis-ism claimed to have been seen scribbled in the NE Scouting Book - in short, 'don't bring me a receiver who can't catch.' Hence my interest in Konz's effort/vision/hands when the ball was in the air. Perhaps Julian will kidnap Tommy or Brian Hoyer for an excursion to Kent State and have them run Konz through the route tree...
 
Found this article in today's Cleveland Plain Dealer written by Cleveland Brown's beat reporter, Tony Grossi.

http: // tinyurl.com / yaacrng
 
I think the CBS DraftScout site needs to shake out a little more. I would quite literally be happy as a pig selecting every player ranked between 58 and 80. This is either the best third round of all time or those guys need to start shifting things around a bit.
 
Jameson Konz pro day work out stats - Cleveland Plain Dealer

Cleveland Browns are only team to witness Kent's Jameson Konz put up "freakish" numbers
By Tony Grossi
March 11, 2010, 1:58PM

CLEVELAND -- Kent State linebacker/fullback Jameson Konz put on an impressive display in his personal workout this morning at the school's lonely pro day.

Because Kent's pro day conflicted with those of major schools with multiple prospects, such as Nebrask, Idaho, Oregon and Boston College, attendance at Kent was scarce. In fact, the Browns were the only NFL team to send a scout.

What he saw was Konz put on an athletic display described as "freakish."

Konz measured 6-3 and 235 pounds. He was timed in the 40-yard dash at 4.41 seconds. Asked to run a second one, he timed 4.38.

Konz also posted a 46-inch vertical jump and a broad jump of 10 feet, 8 inches.

When the results are circulated Konz is expected to receive intitations to visit NFL teams for closer inspection. This is what happened to Kent quarterback Julian Edelman last year, who eventually was drafted by New England in the seventh round and became a valuable receiver/special teamer as a rookie.
 
Re: Jameson Konz pro day work out stats - Cleveland Plain Dealer

Cleveland Browns are only team to witness Kent's Jameson Konz put up "freakish" numbers
By Tony Grossi
March 11, 2010, 1:58PM

CLEVELAND -- Kent State linebacker/fullback Jameson Konz put on an impressive display in his personal workout this morning at the school's lonely pro day.

Because Kent's pro day conflicted with those of major schools with multiple prospects, such as Nebrask, Idaho, Oregon and Boston College, attendance at Kent was scarce. In fact, the Browns were the only NFL team to send a scout.

What he saw was Konz put on an athletic display described as "freakish."

Konz measured 6-3 and 235 pounds. He was timed in the 40-yard dash at 4.41 seconds. Asked to run a second one, he timed 4.38.

Konz also posted a 46-inch vertical jump and a broad jump of 10 feet, 8 inches.

When the results are circulated Konz is expected to receive intitations to visit NFL teams for closer inspection. This is what happened to Kent quarterback Julian Edelman last year, who eventually was drafted by New England in the seventh round and became a valuable receiver/special teamer as a rookie.
If NE likes him they can hopefully draft him in the seventh before Cleveland does.
 
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