Kerry Byrne: Bill Belichick has lost his mojo

[mosi]

Re: Kerry Byrne:Bill Belichick has lost his mojo

Byrnes has a point. Do you really feel comfortable with the defense on the field in the last two minutes? Not me. We got damn lucky against the Ravens and blew it against the Broncos.

The sad thing is the offense now scares me as well...

 

[JSn]

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Byrnes has a point. Do you really feel comfortable with the defense on the field in the last two minutes? Not me. We got damn lucky against the Ravens and blew it against the Broncos.

The sad thing is the offense now scares me as well...

I can't think there are any fans out there who are stoked when their defense is on the field with 2 minutes left and a tie/close score.

The offense will get in gear over the next two games and Dean Pees (aka DC Whizzo) HAS to be hearing the screaming.

No worries. Belichick had the same long off-season everyone else did, in a way. Things will trend upward as they always have. If we couldfinish 11-5 last year, 12-4 is certainly a realistic possibility this year.

 

[JoeSixPat]

Re: Kerry Byrne:Bill Belichick has lost his mojo

win by 3 points and you're a genius. Lose by 3 points and you've lost it. Go figure

 

[JSn]

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win by 3 points and you're a genius. Lose by 3 points and you've lost it. Go figure

That pretty much says it all.

 

[skinnydog]

Re: Kerry Byrne:Bill Belichick has lost his mojo

NFL Game Center: San Diego Chargers at New England Patriots - 2001 Week 5

Denver Broncos 31, New England Patriots 20

They do sometimes . That said, I agree that the Pats' defense isn't SB-caliber yet, but they're young, with a bunch of new parts, playing in a new base formation. They have plenty of time to get better. And I think you're selling Kyle Orton short- in McDaniels' offense, he's very good. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a pro bowl or two over the next couple years.

I know where you are headed, but I'm not sure I see it. In one of those games Flutie completes 20 passes and in the other Griese completes 19. Passing yards are about 270 in each. Those would be good games now.

I hope you're right and this team improves and maybe they will. I seem to remember a point in 2001 where they decided the defense needed to simplify things and just play. Now, I guess I'm not a Peas fan and the bend but don't break has much too much bend in it.

 

[Double G]

Re: Kerry Byrne:Bill Belichick has lost his mojo

Matt Ryan... 3 weeks ago. Or how about Joe Flacco 2 weeks ago. Or how about Kurt Warner (and don't give me the weather excuse- Cassel was awesome in that game and Warner sucked so badly that Leinart subbed in), Brett Favre, and Jay Cutler last year?

That was brutal last week watching Kyle effin Orton shred the Patriots, especially on the game winning drive.

Kyle Orton.

Brutal.

And Sanchez did not look like a "confused rookie" to me in week 2 now did he?

It's really not the massive insult to Patriots fans some of you make it out to be when someone questions the "genius" that we all think BB is, the man five years removed from his last Super Bowl win.

And the last time he was in the Super Bowl, lost on a game winning drive put together by Eli Manning of all people, the goober that he is..............

 

[Wolfpack]

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Kerry Byrne | Patriots Failing the Passing Test: Secondary a Primary Concern

I really can't stand today's "what have you done for me lately because I demand instant satisfaction" mentality. It took Tom Landry 7 years to put up an above-.500 season. If he came along today, he wouldn't have even made it past his third year, and we would all have missed out on one of the all-time greats.

I believe all the NFL's active coaches combine for 5 Super Bowl Championships, and Belichick has 3 of those 5. So I'll take that.

 

[RoughingthePasser]

Why because we're 3-2?
Remember Bills 1st yr here?

Bill's working on a NEW mojo.

We've got some stuff up our sleeves

 

[JSn]

Bill's working on a NEW mojo.

We've got some stuff up our sleeves

 

[BradyFTW!]

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It's really not the massive insult to Patriots fans some of you make it out to be when someone questions the "genius" that we all think BB is, the man five years removed from his last Super Bowl win.

And the last time he was in the Super Bowl, lost on a game winning drive put together by Eli Manning of all people, the goober that he is..............

rofl, so if a bunch of people on this board are calling me a homer, and a bunch are calling me a contrarian jerk who can't just enjoy the team, does that prove that I'm neither?

There's a whole lot that you can criticize this Pats team for. They have a lot of holes. Being this far into the season without a functional #3 WR is indefensible. I don't like that they keep passing on potential franchise LTs when we clearly need one. I'm still not a fan of trading your best pass rusher when the pass rush is your team's biggest weakness. I don't like the fact that the Pats got rid of everyone on the roster who was capable of playing FB except Sammy Morris- I would love to have Hochstein still here, in particular.

That said, of all the things that you can criticize the Pats for, Belichick's lack of mojo is a stupid reason, and DQR is a ******ed justification.

 

[BradyFTW!]

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I hope you're right and this team improves and maybe they will. I seem to remember a point in 2001 where they decided the defense needed to simplify things and just play. Now, I guess I'm not a Peas fan and the bend but don't break has much too much bend in it.

I'm not a huge fan of the end-of-game defense over the last couple of weeks, but I don't know if it's fair to single out Pees for the playcalling. I'm sure that Belichick still exerts a fair amount of authority in that, and I would assume that he plays a dominant role in dictating the defensive philosophy from week to week. I'm just not sure that the talent is there on the field, particularly in the pass rush. With Seymour gone, the hole is bigger than ever- we need someone who can rush the passer, and Thomas and Burgess have both been awful. Wright and TBC have stepped up, but I'm not relying on either one of them over the course of the season. We need at least one of Thomas/Burgess to step it up big time, and if neither do then the defense is screwed. If one or both of them does, I think we'll see teams having a much harder time putting up 99-yard drives.

 

[Brady'sButtBoy]

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The 2007 numbers are probably a bit askew due to the big leads the Pats often had, they forced teams to plan to throw and thus they likely threw a little better. the offense blew the last SB for the most part. one more field goal in that game and this article is irrelevant, no?

The Pats were second in sacks in 2007, fourth in points allowed, fourth in yds/play allowed, 6th in passing yds/game allowed, 11th in opposing QB rating - clearly a disaster!

2006 featured the leagues 2nd best opposing QB rating at 66.1. Only the vaunted Ravens were better at 63.4. the Pats wre 2nd in points are allowed to that same Ravens D. Clearly another disaster of a year on D.

Sorry, I can't go on with more stats...

However, the author is on to something about BB drafting DB's and pass rushers, as in - BB hasn't drafted ANY of note in years. In fact, he hasn't signed any of note in years either. Meriweather is looking good but it's his 3rd year and he still runs past too many tackles. Um, unless I'm mistaken, that's it in the Pats' DB and pass rushing acquisitions for bona fide success stories , let alone stardom. Sanders? Eh, barely more than JAG. Wilhite? May be not bad but he is far from consistent and certainly not a star. Pass rushers? Zero. You're not going to say Woods, are you? he's invisible, and ironically that's probably why he's still on the team. AD flashes but also completely disappears at times. It's not like killer OLB's or DE's are a dime a dozen but it's been years since we bought or developed one.

 

[BradyFTW!]

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Sorry, I can't go on with more stats...

However, the author is on to something about BB drafting DB's and pass rushers, as in - BB hasn't drafted ANY of note in years. In fact, he hasn't signed any of note in years either. Meriweather is looking good but it's his 3rd year and he still runs past too many tackles. Um, unless I'm mistaken, that's it in the Pats' DB and pass rushing acquisitions for bona fide success stories , let alone stardom. Sanders? Eh, barely more than JAG. Wilhite? May be not bad but he is far from consistent and certainly not a star. Pass rushers? Zero. You're not going to say Woods, are you? he's invisible, and ironically that's probably why he's still on the team. AD flashes but also completely disappears at times. It's not like killer OLB's or DE's are a dime a dozen but it's been years since we bought or developed one.

He was busy drafting linebackers. Just finished drafting his secondary of the future, and OL is next

 

[Double G]

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I really can't stand today's "what have you done for me lately because I demand instant satisfaction" mentality. It took Tom Landry 7 years to put up an above-.500 season. If he came along today, he wouldn't have even made it past his third year, and we would all have missed out on one of the all-time greats.

I believe all the NFL's active coaches combine for 5 Super Bowl Championships, and Belichick has 3 of those 5. So I'll take that.

That is an amazing stat that all of the active coaches have a combined total of 5 SB Championships.

Sort of proves the point that the NFL truly is a "what have you done for me lately" league, does it not?

Also shows how short of a shelf life head coaches have..............

 

[RoughingthePasser]

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However, the author is on to something about BB drafting DB's and pass rushers, as in - BB hasn't drafted ANY of note in years. In fact, he hasn't signed any of note in years either. Meriweather is looking good but it's his 3rd year and he still runs past too many tackles. Um, unless I'm mistaken, that's it in the Pats' DB and pass rushing acquisitions for bona fide success stories , let alone stardom. Sanders? Eh, barely more than JAG. Wilhite? May be not bad but he is far from consistent and certainly not a star. Pass rushers? Zero. You're not going to say Woods, are you? he's invisible, and ironically that's probably why he's still on the team. AD flashes but also completely disappears at times. It's not like killer OLB's or DE's are a dime a dozen but it's been years since we bought or developed one.

Merriweather puts some speed into his tackles. You need to make sure you have that last second positioning to get the hit. Hot Rod was good at this. McGowan is pretty good too. He'll improve on stuffing guys.

Pat Chung will be a good player and I think Darius Butler will be a big help in 3rd down pkgs. Wilhite was drafted below 2nd rd. Wheatley and we've got dem doods.

Pluse Springs and Bodden...I know they weren't drafted but we always get some vet help.


Pass rushers. We'll Crable and McKenzie are out. Wright is a freak.
AD will have some position changes coming up that will allow him to do more.
Don't forget our Dline guys....we have some decent pass rushers in there......some rookies.

I'm hoping the next draft we can get a couple of LB's. But you never know....we could get 4 TE's and a punter

Drafting can be up and down....you need a good blend of vets and rookies to develop.
I think we've done ok. We are always contenders so that's better than the previous seasons I've had to live through as a pre- bandwagon Pats Fan.

 

[BradyFTW!]

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That is an amazing stat that all of the active coaches have a combined total of 5 SB Championships.

Sort of proves the point that the NFL truly is a "what have you done for me lately" league, does it not?

Also shows how short of a shelf life head coaches have..............

When Phil Jackson retires in the next year or 2, the NBA will be the same. Larry Brown (1), Doc Rivers (1), and Gregg Poppovich (4), plus anyone else who wins one in the interim, will be the only active coaches with championships.

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

The only stat I need to know is the Pats haven't won a super bowl in the last 5 years. Sure, their team wasn't very good in '05 but put up a good fight in Denver. However, they completely choked against Indy in '06 and displayed the biggest choke job in sports history against the Giants in '07-'08. That super bowl loss was the most pathetic loss I've ever witnessed!

So yes, BB has lost his "mojo".

 

[PatsFan24]

don't have the time or the interest to read what is probably a lot of drivel

 

[BradyFTW!]

The only stat I need to know is the Pats haven't won a super bowl in the last 5 years. Sure, their team wasn't very good in '05 but put up a good fight in Denver. However, they completely choked against Indy in '06 and displayed the biggest choke job in sports history against the Giants in '07-'08. That super bowl loss was the most pathetic loss I've ever witnessed!

So yes, BB has lost his "mojo".

There are so many things wrong with that 'reasoning' that I don't even know where to start. Instead, I think I'll just put you on ignore- the act is wearing thin.

 

[SoonerPatriot]

Stopped reading at "pigskin punditry".

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