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Frick · 08-19-2011, 01:08 PM

The defense excluding OLB looks much improved, no doubt about it.

The offense looks a tiny bit better. Make the Playoffs yes, but SB no way. Until our OC finds a way to integrate the TES into the system and finds a way to keep TB upright when pressure comes up the middle,we have no chance.

IMHO,Gronk & AH are the jewels of the receiving corps. Size, speed,hands,they are a matchup nightmare. Honestly, don't you think if they were on some opponents team we'd be getting a steady diet of these guys and not just a flash once and a while. We should use them like Ali used his jab. Take the Jets, Revis on Ocho,Cromartie on Branch, Wilson & linebacker help on Welker, HELLO, slow linebackers and small safeties on Gronk &A.H.,plus a rejuvenated running game, checkmate! I wouldn"t care if our wideouts had a catch.

Let OB-want-a-gameplan watch film of Gates in S.D. just for starters.

***NEPatriot*** · 08-19-2011, 01:10 PM

I wouldn't draw a lot of conclusions from two pre season games.

Mainefan · 08-19-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frick

The defense excluding OLB looks much improved, no doubt about it.

The offense looks a tiny bit better. Make the Playoffs yes, but SB no way. Until our OC finds a way to integrate the TES into the system and finds a way to keep TB upright when pressure comes up the middle,we have no chance.

I am just curious. On what basis do you make these bold assertions?

***Gwedd*** · 08-19-2011, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

The defense excluding OLB looks much improved, no doubt about it.

The offense looks a tiny bit better. Make the Playoffs yes, but SB no way. Until our OC finds a way to integrate the TES into the system and finds a way to keep TB upright when pressure comes up the middle,we have no chance.

IMHO,Gronk & AH are the jewels of the receiving corps. Size, speed,hands,they are a matchup nightmare. Honestly, don't you think if they were on some opponents team we'd be getting a steady diet of these guys and not just a flash once and a while. We should use them like Ali used his jab. Take the Jets, Revis on Ocho,Cromartie on Branch, Wilson & linebacker help on Welker, HELLO, slow linebackers and small safeties on Gronk &A.H.,plus a rejuvenated running game, checkmate! I wouldn"t care if our wideouts had a catch.

Let OB-want-a-gameplan watch film of Gates in S.D. just for starters.

With your obvious level of expertise, I don't understand why you are posting this here on PatsFans. This sort of insight needs to go directly to Coach B's inbox, so he can get right to work on it.

Seriously, dude.... call up the Patriots front office and demand to speak to him. This is important stuff that he NEEDS to hear!

FootballYouBet · 08-19-2011, 01:21 PM

OK I'll play. The Pats had the best offense in the NFL last year. You're saying that they look a little better this year, which means, they'll probably have the best offense in the NFL this year too. Yet that's not good enough to win the SB? hmmm. Well I bring you our new defense then, because it looks really good, and that's without Haynesworth and Ellis. What we've been missing for the last several years is a play making defense. I think we may finally have that this year and this means more opportunities for Brady and co. I say yes to a SB.

QB12 · 08-19-2011, 01:21 PM

Frick sounds like he may be *fricked* up.

***patsfaninpittsburgh*** · 08-19-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frick

The defense excluding OLB looks much improved, no doubt about it.

The offense looks a tiny bit better. Make the Playoffs yes, but SB no way. Until our OC finds a way to integrate the TES into the system and finds a way to keep TB upright when pressure comes up the middle,we have no chance.

IMHO,Gronk & AH are the jewels of the receiving corps. Size, speed,hands,they are a matchup nightmare. Honestly, don't you think if they were on some opponents team we'd be getting a steady diet of these guys and not just a flash once and a while. We should use them like Ali used his jab. Take the Jets, Revis on Ocho,Cromartie on Branch, Wilson & linebacker help on Welker, HELLO, slow linebackers and small safeties on Gronk &A.H.,plus a rejuvenated running game, checkmate! I wouldn"t care if our wideouts had a catch.

Let OB-want-a-gameplan watch film of Gates in S.D. just for starters.

Should we use film from San Diego's champoinchip years?

***NEGoldenAge*** · 08-19-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mainefan

I am just curious. On what basis do you make these bold assertions?

What an interesting use of the word bold.

randomk1 · 08-19-2011, 01:39 PM

They combined for ummm 87 receptions 1100 yards and 16 TD's last season as rookies and with injuries.

Next thread please.

Interception · 08-19-2011, 01:44 PM

"Against the Buccaneers, the Patriots mixed in "21" (two backs, two receivers and one tight end), "11" (one back, one tight end and three receivers), "12" (one back, two tight end and two receivers) and "13" (one back, three tight ends and one receiver) packages to create mismatches in space. Their clever utilization of tight, cluster and spread formations out of various personnel packages prevented the defense from properly matching up with New England's playmakers, which led to big plays.

To that point, the Patriots scored a pair of touchdowns out of their "13" package due to the defense's overreaction to the run-heavy tendency typically associated with the grouping."

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