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crowell33 · 05-26-2011, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

you are wrong

If your one of those guys saying that he shouldn't be spending time with his wife and child, and traveling to the other coast to spend time with Bridgette and his other son, then it is you who are wrong my friend.

Players grow up and have families, and those families, rightfully so become the priorities of quality human beings like Tom Brady.

***AndyJohnson*** · 05-26-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by crowell33

If your one of those guys saying that he shouldn't be spending time with his wife and child, and traveling to the other coast to spend time with Bridgette and his other son, then it is you who are wrong my friend.

Players grow up and have families, and those families, rightfully so become the priorities of quality human beings like Tom Brady.

No, I am saying that he had a life then and he has a life now, and its ridiculous to conclude that he spends less time on football because he has a wife and kids.....my friend.

crowell33 · 05-26-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

No, I am saying that he had a life then and he has a life now, and its ridiculous to conclude that he spends less time on football because he has a wife and kids.....my friend.

Sorry I misunderstood you. I have never heard anyone try to make the case that he spends as many hours per year on football now as he did during ( 2001, 2002, & 2004 ) now that he has two families.

I am certain that Tom Brady would certainly and proudly disagree with you.

crowell33 · 05-26-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyJohnson

No, I am saying that he had a life then and he has a life now, and its ridiculous to conclude that he spends less time on football because he has a wife and kids.....my friend.

Tom Brady responds:

Tom Brady talks about the 2010 New England Patriots' season and his offseason focus - ESPN Boston

supafly · 05-26-2011, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MoLewisrocks

NY is a 40 minute flight from Boston. And it wasn't lack of prep that caused them to perform badly in that JETS game. It was prepping for the wrong defense and an inability to adjust to it on the fly. That's a failure on the part of the coaching staff coupled with inexperience and failure to execute in key situations. By the time we got to 2004-05 Charlie had a very experienced veteran offense that knew the entire playbook backwards that could adapt on the fly to fairly limitless options. They also had guys who prided themselves on executing including keeping Brady upright and catching the damn ball when it landed in your hands. Still we won by 3. 2007 they got flat out outmuscled on the LOS all day. Yet Brady managed to bring them back in what would have been a championship game winning drive had the D not spit the bit in the final two minutes. In 2009 Brady was coming back from a year of rehab, spending inordinate amounts of time pleading with his weapons to push through whatever ailed them and then he lost his most consistent weapon. And out of the gate the now transitioning young defense played like hot crap and dug the kind of hole you cannot prep and game plan for. I'm just sayin... None of that had anything to do with Brady's game prep. It had to do with issues like poor execution across the board, being physically overmatched, and in some cases being flat out out coached. Brady can study tape all night long but unless they all execute and unless the game plan is sound or adaptable, it don't matter. One day there will be reason for a thread titled Tom Brady please come back to us... But that won't be for a while yet until after you all begin to realize what he consistently brought to the table under a variety of more often than not less than optimum conditions...

I couldn't agree with you more, Mo. There are many good points here.

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Originally Posted by Bostonian1962

I don't think being fed grapes on the beach, or square dancing, or posing in boots, or going down water slides leads to losses. But, it does make one wonder if all this outside non-football stuff is helpful. On the one hand, he has to live his life. On the other, seeing him at a broadway play in NY, during the week of prep for the playoff game against the Jets in NE can't be overlooked. At least not by me. When he was winning Super Bowls, he was studying game tape until 2 AM with Charlie Weis. Now he's going to broadway shows in another state, far away from any game prep. Don't hate me for bringing it up. I'm just sayin........

In respect to your questioning--I can appreciate the viewpoint, and I don't see anything wrong with being curious about the 'differences' that you perceive. I do however, think that many of these so-called 'action pics' are taken when Brady is on vacation, when it is the off-season, etc. In other words, they are not being taken when there is football to be studied and played.

I do not even remotely believe that he is not the same film room rat that he has always been, and even if he weren't--he has gained valuable experience from all of these years, and likely picks up on things pretty damn easily anymore. Brady has grown 'BETTER,' in my opinion. He was quite servicable in the beginning, and most-importantly was smart, and did not make too many mistakes. He was a great leader for the SB teams, but not the only piece of the puzzle. There were many great players, many good bounces of the ball, some calls/some no-calls, some incredible luck involved too. All of the pieces fit together pretty well. Then we had a team in transition. Gone were the Rodney's, the Vrabel's, the McGinnest's, the Ted Johnson's, the Branch's, the Brown's, the Seymour's---the list goes on and on..

Since then, Brady has only matured, grown more competitive (which was helped by the defeats), and more vocal. He may have some differences on the outside, such as what chick he's with, what he's doing with said chick etc, but on the inside he is the exact same player. 2 of 3 MVP's in his last 3 seasons--all playoff led performances. The reason why this team lost in the playoffs does not have as much to do with Brady himself, as people would be led to believe. Look at his stats in the last 3 playoff losses, they could have easily been 2-1, and no one would have known any differently. It's the surrounding circumstances that have changed, the players themselves that have changed, and as we saw in the SB...sometimes we aren't going to get every call, every bounce of the ball.

I would certainly argue your opinion on the example that you set forth regarding the Broadway play during the weekend of the Jets/Indy WC game. Brady has mentioned before that it does absolutely no good one way or another 'rooting' for someone to win, because his work will not start until AFTER the game and the winner has been decided anyway. Not only that, but he actually was on the record with saying that he really only missed the first-half anyway. When you figure that the game itself wasn't decided until the final kick, I really don't care if he played tiddlywinks with a group of clowns during the game. The fact is, it was 8 full days before our scheduled home game. That's actually one of the benefits of the bye, is to get some rest, and take your mind away from football. That's what they worked so hard all year. I would bet anything that Brady himself worked just as hard during the NYJ week as he always has, regardless of what girl he's with, whether he rollerskates during the offseason, or windsurfs, or poses with goats, or whatever. When it's time for business, he is still the man we all want at the helm.

***AndyJohnson*** · 05-26-2011, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by crowell33

Tom Brady responds:

Tom Brady talks about the 2010 New England Patriots' season and his offseason focus - ESPN Boston

That doesnt say what you want to think it does.
Not living in NE in the offseason, and therefore working out on his own, is not an example of 'Tom Brady saying he spends less time on football than when he was winning SBs'.
Many, many players and QBs do not spend the offseason in town.
You are reaching to make a point that doesnt exist.

***AndyJohnson*** · 05-26-2011, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by crowell33

Sorry I misunderstood you. I have never heard anyone try to make the case that he spends as many hours per year on football now as he did during ( 2001, 2002, & 2004 ) now that he has two families.

I am certain that Tom Brady would certainly and proudly disagree with you.

Again, you are wrong.
Having a family does not prevent people from working.