TheSolderKing

why b/c I bring up FACTS? Did you know the college cops did NOTHING after a brief investigation? This entire situation is FUBAR. Everyone that knew about this and never wnt to the COPS are at fault.

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SeymourTrophies

This donation thing from the Second Mile would change my opinion dramatically, but up until now, I see it as totally possible that Paterno was that far out of the loop. Joe was not on the front line, and it is entirely possible huge chunks of info bypassed him. Larry Johnson was talking about his time at PSU, and he said that he almost never saw Paterno beside on gamedays where he would yell random sounds and the position coach would translate if it was directed at him (it should be noted that the point of the story was to do an impression of JoePa, but the message remains). The guy is/ has been ancient, and I've thought for a long time that he was a talking head who was used to recruit and march out there on gamedays while all of his underlings did the football work. I don't think he reports what McQueary tells him to anyone if he's trying to cover up for Sandusky.

My understanding was also that Paterno reported the rape when he was told. The campus police opened an investigation, but it closed shortly thereafter (more than likely with influence from someone higher up) with no results. Sandusky was a bit of a big name himself, it's entirely possible a police chief doesn't want to incriminate an old ball coach. JoePa probably should have followed up, but Sandusky and his 'charity' were exiled (lamely to another state u campus). Frankly, I would have tried to block out the weeks of my life where I processed the fact that my right hand man banged innocent 10-year olds for fear of never sleeping again.

I haven't seen any of the transcripts some reference though. I've just been hearing reports and reading articles about it. If Paterno did maintain contact with Sandusky, knew about all of this, and, god forbid, took donations from the Second Mile, he should absolutely be met by a mob equipped with pitchforks and torches. However, I'm fairly confident that Paterno hasn't been coherent for 15 years. At one point, I thought he was dead and being wheeled around on a dolley by execs at PSU who don't want to lose their only taste of relevance.

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NEP4Life

This scandal will come down to two words: Who knew?

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Clonamery

He's made a lot of clever maneouvers lately to retain his legacy for someone who hasn't been coherent in 15 years.

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MoLewisrocks

I was reading some of the coverage this AM and came across this poignant piece, written by a writer who grew up in the insular world that was State College, that deals less with the gory details of the scandal than the fallout in the face of proof that sooner or later absolute power absolutely corrupts. I don't have much empathy for McQueary in all of this. I guess you could say he half ass did the right thing, although I can't imagine a 28 year old graduate assistant studying for his Masters in Education witnessing what he did and failing to do the truly right thing for any reason other than fear of what that might cost him...a shot a being Joe one day... Self preservation is a pretty powerful emotion too, whether what you are trying to preserve is your innocence or your core belief in the goodness of others or your surroundings or just your damn career prospects... Hindsight is always 20-20.

Michael Weinreb on Joe Paterno, Jerry Sandusky, and dealing with the controversy at Penn State - Grantland

I grew up in a small bedroom community where the parish church and schools it spawned while not on the same level as PSU weilded tremendous power and influence and set the tone and ruled the town roost for decades. It remainded essentially that above the fray enclave for decades because that power deemed that was in it's and our best interest. Although few of us next generationers could afford to continue to live there into our adulthood as a result and it has more recently become a happening suburban upscale yuppie newcomers destination location with some of the most stable upscale RE prices and best walking distance ethnic dining in metro west (although never a Mickey D's or the like and dry as a bone until recently...). Did have it's pedophile priest debaucle 25 years ago, but it was of course hushed up because the generation that had bought all in couldn't deal with that kind of upsetting discussion. I know when I was growing up if a kid had an issue with a nun or a priest or most any authority figure, you ended up on the short end of the stick. I've always believed - and at one time opined - that a couple of my young male cousins who had issues in their early teens that seemed to derail them for at least a time might have had first hand experience in their alter boy phase under his watch... But their parents never considered even going there because I guess it was easier to just think of yourself as a potential parental failure or just blame their behavior and issues on the times...

So I guess maybe this is middle America's welcome to the real world moment, just a couple of decades past the rest of us coastal dwellers. No more clinging to that naive belief that somehow you were insular and immune to it. In my mother's day nearly a century ago and close to Joe's generation, it was never openly discussed or acknowledged, although certain bastards did tend to disappear from a neighborhood rather unceremoneously. Self preservation at work there, too though. Because anything more would have meant you had to you know...acknowledge and talk about it.

Dagg

Jo Pa has defintaley been a puppet for years. if he did know he should be punished. Sandusky should either promptly kill himself or let the state kill him sick effin bastard.

robbomango

All McQueary had to do is break it up, call the police and call the kids parents. Ideally you'd beat Sandusky to a bloody pulp then call the police.

McQueary is scum of the earth, it'd be worth getting thrown off the team and out of school to knock that cowards teeth in.

Everyone that knew is guilty of aiding and abetting, scum.

SeymourTrophies

It's all speculation, so I can't discredit 'he said, she said' at the moment. so...Per a poster on another board who claims to be a PSU booster:

In 1998 the University Park PD investigated allegations that he had fondled a young boy, turned everything they had over to the DA, and the DA did not prosecute. The investigation was sealed, and Joe Paterno and other administrators had no idea what happened, other than that he was investigated for some issue. Even with that little information, Joe Paterno told Sandusky that he would not become the coach at Penn State, and there are rumors he stopped him from getting the job at UVa. What transpired is that Sanduskey negotiated a retirement with Penn State brass that included Coach Emeritus status, that gave him free reign of Campus.

In 1998, Mike McQuery walked into the locker room, heard noises in the locker room, and saw Sanduskey behind a boy in the shower, both naked - for an instant and then ran. Next morning he talked Joe Paterno and relayed to him he thought he saw something strange, possibly of a sexual nature, happen in the locker room between Sandusky and a boy. Paterno immediately told Curley, and Curley and Schultz - who administers the Campus Police Department - came and interviewed Paterno to ask what happened. Joe relayed what he was told "fondling or something of a sexual nature" to them. From Joe Paterno's point of view, he not only told his superior, he also told the head of a police department. He had reasonable expectations the police would invesitgate the matter fully.

A week later Curley and Schultz interviewed Mcquery on what he saw. He told them he saw what he believed to be anal rape. They said they'd investigate. Again, from McQuery's point of view, he has reasonable belief that by telling Schultz, he's telling the police. A while later they call him (McQuery) back, telling him they reported to the Second mile and took away Sandusky's locker room keys. That's where the GJ stops." END QUOTE

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robbomango

I read the report, it specifically stated McQueary witnessed a sexual act. he's a low life coward, end of story.

link below has an article including grand jury report.
Mcall.com: Blogging with Bill White Blog

MoLewisrocks

Joe wasn't ever out of the loop at Penn State. Joe was the loop.