IcyPatriot

So what's the bottom for Ortiz and his avg?

How low can it go before he stops getting greater respect than he deserves.

Oh ... btw ... is he one of those 100 names on the steroid list ... word is he is.

My guess ... I'll go .149 ... why not I think it's a bit high for a former juicer. Must be the guilt of it all.

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Tunescribe

Here's the deal with Ortiz: he claims to be 33, I'll bet he's closer to 40. That would explain a lot.

IcyPatriot

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Boston Boxer

I say give him until the All Star break...if he still sucks then he needsto go on the DL and we need to see more of Carter from AAA or trade for a big bat

captain insano

word is? from who? from where?

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captain insano

doesnt pass the eye test. he doesnt look close to 40 to me.

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Palm Beach Pats Fan

it used to be that lots of guys would drop off fairly dramatically in their 30s even before steroids, though Papi's decline is dramatic for 1 year to be sure.

A 70s/80s example of the after-30 power decline was George Foster, going from 52 HR, 149 RBI, 0.320 at age 28 to 13 HR, 70 RBI, 0.247 at age 33.

We are so used to seeing 'roids preventing the "normal" decline these days. Maybe he did it and has stopped, but I hope that's not it (that he juiced).

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IcyPatriot

People (writers) who have seen the list but need to protect their sources as they say in that business ... we'll see soon ... in the next few years who is on the list.

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captain insano

what writers ? what papers? espn? i haven't seen or read anything about ortiz and roids. some have speculated but nobody has so much as hinted ortiz is on that list. if a writer had that story he would simply write the story and quote a unnamed source.

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Synovia

You could protect your sources and still release the info. Thats what actual journalists do.


Or, more likely, you're just making **** up.