BSR

Another one of those plays from that game that will haunt me for eternity.

upstater1

7. The first PI should have been a 5 yard holding penalty. That being said, it was a spot foul for 10 yards, so no biggee.

The second PI was definitely PI and should have been spotted where it was. Gilmore pushed him with two hands as he was cutting causing him to fall. That being said, I don't trust Fouts enough to accurately tell me whether the call could have been caught, and they never showed the replay. It may have been a bad call.

As for those remembering the Pierre Woods fumble recovery in the Super Bowl, consider that Woods was completely away from other players, unattached. He was down as soon as he was touched. There wasn't any pile there.

Fball

The PI calls reminded me of the replacement ref days.

Kulko

Well after four games like that, i dont think it is a sign of impending insanity if you feel worried by this. Especially when the Offense played mostly perfect in this one, but the only stop the defense could provide was when the Bills spotted them a 3rd and 21 after three successive fouls. (Ok I know there was one more, but really thats what it felt like)

Also While I am sure that the defense will not be as bad as it was sunday, I am not so sure that it will get that much better soon. The problem has been going on too long and who exactly do we expect to raise his level of play. Chung is often injured, and really he was part of the problem in recent years too. and at CB we just had a lot of misses in the last drafts, so now we are left hoping that some late round picks overperform. I am rather resigned to the fact, that this season like last years will be on Brady and Turnovers again to bail us out. Maybe Talib will help, but the track record of integrating high profile free agents not named Moss, just isn't there.
That said, Tackling was at an all time low last game, and I don't expect that to continue in the upcoming games, mainly because I didn't see it in the last games and I expect Bill to have a few choice words to say about that in filnm work this week. Actually I believe the guys involved in the 3rd and 15 will seee that for the rest of their football live in NE I am pretty sure.

As for the fumble recovery, that really sucks, but injuries are seldom in these piles and its somehow part of the established football culture. Luckily it didnt come down to that mattering.

As for the goalline play, I agree with you, that it was probably the wrong tactic in this situation, but its hard to reign in your instincts. Overall I would say, the track record for this "surprise" plays just isn't there, and the opponents definitely know its coming when they play the Pats. Most of these plays seem to end just outside of the Receivers reach, because TB is also hurrying the throw, or like that one tackeld for a loss, because our OLine is mentally not ready too. Why not have them line up immediately for the QB Sneak, and if its not there let TB audible to a normal play while making it hard for the D to communicate. because they are all in there stances already.

On the good side our grasp on the division title is now fairly secure, and only a double loss to Miami would be putting that at serious risk.
On the bad side all our bye opponents missed there chance to drop a losable game too, so thats getting more remote by the week. Given that we will be facing 50-50 odds at best in all potential playoff games with the exception of indy, this extra game will hurt.

DarrylS

The whole D pooped the bed on Sunday.. penalties, out of position and a poor game plan. They did not take away any part of the Bills Defense..

The most telling stat, is 180 yards after the catch for Buffalo... poor tackling, poor angles and just a piss poor effort... gotta get better.

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MoLewisrocks

Across the league this weekend it was as if the regulars were saluting the replacement refs performance by aspiring to replicate it. Which they do to some extent each and every week. This weekend they just outdid themselves... But it gets largely overlooked because it is what it is when you're the regulars...and it's mid season and the media has plenty of other fish to fry.

Kenneth Sims

The NFL is getting as bad as the NBA because it has so many subjective rules that are so hard to call.

Maybe, the best we can hope for is that the NFL changes the consequences of some penalties lessening their effect on the game. For a longtime, I've been a proponent of changing pass interference from a spot penalty to just 15 yards and an automatic 1st down. Now, I believe that defensive holding shouldn't be an automatic 1st down. Lowering the penalty and calling everything more closely across the board will clean up play and make the game easier to call for its officials.

The other problem is personal foul calls. They have too much effect on the game. My solution would be that aside from face mask and horse collar infractions that actually effect the outcome of the play personal fouls would not effect down and distance. The penalty should just be 15 yards along with fines against the violator and his team. No more game-changing automatic 1st downs because some defender misjudges when the QB goes to duck resulting in a helmet to helmet collision.

ThatllMoveTheChains!!!

Agreed, PI is broken in how it's written, interpreted, and enforced. Games shouldn't hinge on underthrown 40yd bombs where the only infraction by the DB was the receiver suddenly turned right into them. I'd be very happy if they cleaned up the rule and made it a 15yder; they could test run a spot foul if the infraction was blatant (tackling the WR before the ball was even close).

Offensive holding is another rule that really needs to be fixed.

Kenneth Sims

I agree. Moving the umpire into the offense backfield hasn't helped either.

everlong

Mike Flynn who was an NFL O-Lineman was on Sports Hub and said the the initial issue was with Jones and Ninkovich. He said both have done a fantastic job all year setting the edge and forcing the ball back inside where Wilfork, Love, Spikes and Mayo clean up. On Sunday however they weren't setting the edge well. Then what started to happen was Mayo and Spikes and to a lesser degree Wilfork and Love started getting wider to try and make up for this. What happened was cutback lanes that hadn't been there all year were huge. Some plays Jones and Ninkovich actually had the edge but the LBs lost their leverage getting too far outside and opened up these lanes. It was really a great segment and I wish sports radio was more of this and less of the TMZ crap.

Do your job.

EDIT: The one thing he didn't get into which I wish he did and I don't have the game taped like I normally do to see for myself is if Jones and Ninkovich were simply over match or did the Bills do something scheme wise to chip them or have the TE's coming down inside.....If anybody has the game tape I'd be interested.

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