Ive_Killed_People

I was watching Total Access the other night and the question was posed to Heath Evans and Warren Sapp "Who is the better TE Gronk or Graham. They showed stats in 4 categories: TDs/YDS/Rec. and Rec. over 25 yds. Now obviously this last stat was cherry picked to make it look like a closer competition. Sapp(a grown man who owns over 250 pair of sneakers,true story) used this cherry picked stat to say that Graham was more explosive because he had 3 more plays over 25 yds and that coupled with the fact he went to school at the "U" makes him superior to Gronk.

But as Deion Sanders says when he's about to (allegedly) pimp slap his wife: HOLD ON PLAYA! Gronk has more YDs on 9 less catches. Gronk averages 14.7 YPC to Graham's 13.2. So wouldn't the guy that has more YPC be the more explosive?

OK we know Sapp is a joke and that we weren't going to really get an honest debate because for one thing there IS no debate. Gronk is twice the player Graham is.

Gronk scored 18 mussa fussin TD's last year...Graham had 11

Gronk was the first TE to ever lead the league in TD receptions

Gronk gained more yards(and don't tell me it was only because he was put back in...Peyton put Graham back in first to try and steal Gronks record)

But here's the kicker.(and neither Heath Evans in his pro-Gronk argument or Sapp in his mindless "U" rant even mentioned)

RECEIVING IS ONLY HALF OF A TE'S JOB

Gronk is a beast ask T-Sizzle(of course he'll have to refer to the police report of the truck that ran him over in the AFC Championship game)

Graham couldn't block my Grandma from crossing the street even if she was holding a bag of groceries and her joints were aching because it was about to rain.

So anyways I saw that a couple days ago and just had to vent about it when I hit 50 posts.

Ice_Ice_Brady

Graham was targeted 20 more times last year.

Gronk is way better in the red zone. As you pointed out, Gronk is a far superior blocker.

In my opinion, Graham is not a top-5 TE; he is more of a tall wide receiver.

Uncle Rico

I remember seeing one of these last season too, and the word "blocking" was never mentioned. Absurd. Gronk can disappear from the passing game for several series and still be one of the most valuable guys on the field. Graham not so much.

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Big-T

As one of the commentators said last season - Gronk blocks better than some teams starting tackles!

A fairer debate would be: Hernandez or Graham?

There isn't a TE in the league on Gronks level, he's the best all-round TE in the league.

patsfan13

You have to remember that thee shows are for entertainment as much as anything else, and a lot of these debates are staged.

Nothing to take seriously.

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Pujo

It doesn't matter, Jermichael Finley is better than both of them combined.

Pujo

I'm very sure that's true, but how does Sapp always end up drawing the short straw and having to take the stupid side in an argument?

Frezo

If the 500 shoes fit...

strngplyr

This. 100%

My above agreeance aside, it is also 100% possible that Sapp is not aware these are staged.

Ive_Killed_People

No doubt,but...It just shows their hypocrisy. In that same show they were breaking down film on Mario Williams. But I guess they never got around to watching film on the TE's