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Old 07-23-2011, 07:39 PM   #1
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Next year we have 2 1st's, 2 2nd's, 1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th. With that in mind, and knowing that Koppen's at the end of the trail, we go after Mike Brewster, OSU (he's been called "another Nick Mangold"), and for the sake of argument, we go after Vinny Curry, OLB, Marshall. That takes care of our 2 1st's and 2 2nd round picks. As we did last year, we might be able to bundle our 3rd and 4th round picks for a 2nd next year, might even have to add the 5th round pick in.

To get a 2nd round pick that we can trade for a 1st in 2013, we need a team with a short window of opportunity to win it all. Last year Minnesota went into the draft needing a QB, OT, S, OG/C, CB and OLB. They drafted a QB, they drafted a OG/C and they drafted a CB.

I wrote in to the crew at PFW and they all thought that Jarrad Page could replace Brandon Meriweather without any problems. With the development of Patrick Chung, that makes Sanders expendable. So, the way I figure it, we could offer Minnesota any or all of the following players without hurting the team and would free up some of the money that Logan Mankins' tag would cost: Meriweather (next year his agent's going to ask for the moon), Sanders (too much money for a backup), Kaczur (again, too much money for a backup). We could even throw in Butler or Wilhite.

So, for a 2nd round pick next year, what combination of players would you be willing to trade to Minnesota?
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Pop quiz: When was the last time 3+ players were traded for a single pick?
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I got the impression Page is is not at all like Meriweather, more like Chung. He's 225.
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With about a 48 hour window to formalize their rosters, signing fa's, rookies, udfa's... do you really think that the Pats and Minnesota could pull off something so complicated...

This is not fantasy football, why would Minnesota give up these players???.. teams are built through the draft, with a sprinkling of fa's, not by giving up a draft pick that you can have for reasonable money for 4 years..
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With about a 48 hour window to formalize their rosters, signing fa's, rookies, udfa's... do you really think that the Pats and Minnesota could pull off something so complicated...

This is not fantasy football, why would Minnesota give up these players???.. teams are built through the draft, with a sprinkling of fa's, not by giving up a draft pick that you can have for reasonable money for 4 years..
Why would Minnesota want to trade with the Patriots after Randy Moss worked out so well for them? You get the feeling the ghosts of Andy Reid MKII Bam Bam Childress is going to haunt Leslie this season.

Christian Ponder, Tarvaris Jackson and Joe Webb. Good luck winning with that.
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I wrote in to the crew at PFW and they all thought that Jarrad Page could replace Brandon Meriweather without any problems.
Well, my estimation of their analysis just took a hit.
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Year after year, James Sanders comes to play every day. He isn't flashy, but he is very consistent. Yet every offseason, some group of yahoos insists this is the year he will be cut/traded, or that he is making too much money.

Isn't it obvious by now that BB and the staff value his contributions? If Sanders stays healthy and keeps working hard, I could see him having an OTIS type career. He can serve capably for a long time.
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We got a receiver from Oakland for a 3rd and a 5th, he stunk and we still trade with Oakland.

The trade might be tough to pull off but that is a bunch of talent for a 2nd round pick, and Meriweather did go to the Pro Bowl two years in a row. I don't believe Minnesota can make a run filling that many spots with rookies.

As far as Jarred Page being 225, it concerned me so that's why I wrote to the guys at PFW, and if memory serves me, didn't Page have 3 interceptions in very little playing time? And we always have a kid named Dowling, with Arrington covering the slot. Plus we have the luxury of picking up a couple of UDFA's and letting them sit and learn.

I guess my big question is: if you were the GM at Minnesota, would you or would you not jump at this trade?
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We got a receiver from Oakland for a 3rd and a 5th, he stunk and we still trade with Oakland.

The trade might be tough to pull off but that is a bunch of talent for a 2nd round pick, and Meriweather did go to the Pro Bowl two years in a row. I don't believe Minnesota can make a run filling that many spots with rookies.

As far as Jarred Page being 225, it concerned me so that's why I wrote to the guys at PFW, and if memory serves me, didn't Page have 3 interceptions in very little playing time? And we always have a kid named Dowling, with Arrington covering the slot. Plus we have the luxury of picking up a couple of UDFA's and letting them sit and learn.

I guess my big question is: if you were the GM at Minnesota, would you or would you not jump at this trade?
I think they will deal meriweather if they can, because of his value to other teams, the likelihood of a nasty contract negotiation and the fact that he doesn't seem to be with the program sometimes and runs into his own temmates trying to make the flashy play.

Page and Chung together would likely be awful IMO. You heard it here, Rastaman Dowling is the replacement if it happens (and if he pans out, obviously, being a rookie).
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I've got no clue who Belichick may be targeting or what trade scenarios have been discussed behind the scenes

Suffice to say Belichick likely has a plan and he has the ammunition he needs to go out and grab a guy if he wants him, assuming the price is right.
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