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Old 01-21-2008, 10:30 PM   #1
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I live in Ny, and can't tell you how many times I've seen on the news tonight Amani Toomer crying about the 14 point spread.. "We were 14 point underdogs getting off the plane last night." So that's the card they are playing.. Stop your whining..
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:34 PM   #2
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I remember when he played @ De La Salle High School back in 1991.

Our High School team went up against De La Salle back in 1991 for the 3A Championship Game. We were Huge underdogs in that game. But we pulled off the Victory and De La Salle did not lose another game until 2004.
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Down to 12 pt dogs now, it has nothing to do with Brady's ankle/foot. Public have been burned on NE lately, they've not covered the spread hardly at all other than against Pittsburgh the past several weeks. Plus, Giants are in a huge market and they've been covering a lot lately, I was expecting the line to go down near 11 before game time.

NE may get a lot of the sharp action in the game, if the spread keeps falling, while a lot of the public who is gunshy on the Pats against the spread may back NYG.
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:17 PM   #4
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14 points seems awfully high
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14 points seems awfully high
I agree...8/9 is more like where it should be. but it's all set by where the money is being bet, so we can't argue with the line.

Toomer should know why Vegas set the line where they did. It's not like the experts or ESPN is responsible here. All he has to do is convince more people to put their money on the Giants and the line will come down.

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Vegas has set the spreads high the last few games in order to recoup some of their money that was spent on the Pats earlier in the season.
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Vegas has set the spreads high the last few games in order to recoup some of their money that was spent on the Pats earlier in the season.
If you think the bookies lose money on any games, I have a bridge that you might like to buy.

As other posters have correctly indicated, the odds are set in order to get the same amount of money bet on the two teams. And when the book is 'balanced' like that - it DOES NOT matter who wins with respect to the spread. The bookies make money either way. If the books are not balancing before a game, you see the odds shifted - which is just their way to get the bets to even out. The fact that you rarely see the odds shift very much before the game is an indication of just how uncanny the bookies are in judging the 'balancing' odds to begin with.

What the bookies are EXPERT at is figuring out a spread that will get the same number of people to bet on either team. Their odds and spreads have NOTHING to do with predicting who will actually win the game.
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If you think the bookies lose money on any games, I have a bridge that you might like to buy.

As other posters have correctly indicated, the odds are set in order to get the same amount of money bet on the two teams. And when the book is 'balanced' like that - it DOES NOT matter who wins with respect to the spread. The bookies make money either way. If the books are not balancing before a game, you see the odds shifted - which is just their way to get the bets to even out. The fact that you rarely see the odds shift very much before the game is an indication of just how uncanny the bookies are in judging the 'balancing' odds to begin with.

What the bookies are EXPERT at is figuring out a spread that will get the same number of people to bet on either team. Their odds and spreads have NOTHING to do with predicting who will actually win the game.
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Was he just stating a fact or were there actually tears raining down his face?
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It's not a Toomer! (sorry I couldn't resist).
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