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Sanders is extremely overrated. He is not a bad player, but he gets way too much credit for run defense. Safeties are SUPPORT in run defense not run stoppers. If you scheme to bring them up, and scheme to keep blockers off of them, they can make a lot of tackles. Sanders is not fighting through blockers to make tackles, he is just carrying out his assignment in the defense. Pass defense is a much larger gauge in assessing a safety, and he is not fantastic in pass defense.
You are wrong about him. He does stop the run. Did you watch the Monday night game against the Jags? He made two key stops behind the line and he wasn't just cleaning up scraps. The way that Bob plays he almost comes up like an extra linebacker. He does well in pass defense too. He may be short but he can make a play on the ball and his closing speed is outstanding. The way that he really affects the passing is the way he hits. Once a receiver gets drilled by him, they play like it the rest of the game. It's not uncommon for them to hear footsteps or to get alligator arms.
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Do I get kicked off the forum because I disagree with Andy here and agree with slimey Colts fans?
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Do I get kicked off the forum because I disagree with Andy here and agree with slimey Colts fans?
I still say he's quite the play maker.
I also don't think he is going to be enough for the Colts to stop this offense.
He does worry me a little, though.
No I dont get what that has to do with this.
I think Maroneys ability is much higher than mediocre but his production has not yet been. (A starting RB in the NFL passes mediocre around 1300 yards).
Sanders is extremely overrated. He is not a bad player, but he gets way too much credit for run defense. Safeties are SUPPORT in run defense not run stoppers. If you scheme to bring them up, and scheme to keep blockers off of them, they can make a lot of tackles. Sanders is not fighting through blockers to make tackles, he is just carrying out his assignment in the defense. Pass defense is a much larger gauge in assessing a safety, and he is not fantastic in pass defense.
Many talking heads are making Sanders sound like he is Dick Butkus or Jack Lambert. Essentially the Colt defense is designed for him to be unblocked at the point of attack. What he gets are the scraps left over if the rest of the D does their job, or the tackle on a longer gain if they do not.
That is the epitome of overated.
If taking out Jones Drew behind the line on 4th and short was "scrappy" then I'll take it. He didn't have to "fight through" a block, because he snuffed out the play. The guy is ridiculously good in that role. Call it run support, I don't care. He means a lot to the overall success of the D. Why is pass defense a larger gauge? Isn't a safety suited for both run and pass SUPPORT?? And if he sucks so bad, how's come Indy leads the league in pass defense from 10 yards and out?? How's come they rarely give up a big pass play? He must have SOME skill set in that arena. I guess my beef might be that many times when he gets his hands on a pass, he can't hang on to it.
You saying he's over rated is as ergregiously stupid as Jules comment about Maroney.
I don't think so. He's basically the difference between them having a 26th rated defense and having a top 5 defense. He's got great instincts for where the play is going. He's got elite speed and plays all out. And I'm a patriots fan. I recognize he's the difference maker on the defensive side.
Was he even in the AFCCG last year?
I watched the game last night and I don't remember
his name being called.
Were the COlts without him?
Or did the Pats effectively game plan him out?
Anyone?
Doesn't matter come Sunday, because he'll be facing a whole new monster. Moss, Wes and Donte will be in full effect.
You are wrong about him. He does stop the run. Did you watch the Monday night game against the Jags? He made two key stops behind the line and he wasn't just cleaning up scraps. The way that Bob plays he almost comes up like an extra linebacker. He does well in pass defense too. He may be short but he can make a play on the ball and his closing speed is outstanding. The way that he really affects the passing is the way he hits. Once a receiver gets drilled by him, they play like it the rest of the game. It's not uncommon for them to hear footsteps or to get alligator arms.
1.) The scheme of the Colts is a downhill assault scheme for Sanders diving into the line. In order for it to be successful, the Colts have to sell out on almost every play.
2.) Patriots fans heard this same sort of argument about a better safety on a better defense. End result: Patriots 52, Redskins 7
3.) Anyone looking over that AFCCG is doubtless trying to figure out why this superman of a safety was unable to prevent that wounded and far less talented Patriots offense from racking up so many points. Without any running game to speak of, that offense was able to help the team put 34 points on the board and lead most of the way, including a 21-6 lead at the half.
The key to this game is not Sanders, it's the Colts cornerbacks. If they can stay with Moss and Stallworth with just single coverage on Stallworth and 1 safety help on Moss, Sanders will be able to sell out at the line and remain around the box to help with Welker and (possibly) Watson. If Moss requires a full double team, or Stallworth proves to be too much one-on-one, Sanders will become much like a certain Redskins safety: a non-factor.
1.) The scheme of the Colts is a downhill assault scheme for Sanders diving into the line. In order for it to be successful, the Colts have to sell out on almost every play.
2.) Patriots fans heard this same sort of argument about a better safety on a better defense. End result: Patriots 52, Redskins 7
3.) Anyone looking over that AFCCG is doubtless trying to figure out why this superman of a safety was unable to prevent that wounded and far less talented Patriots offense from racking up so many points. Without any running game to speak of, that offense was able to help the team put 34 points on the board and lead most of the way, including a 21-6 lead at the half.
The key to this game is not Sanders, it's the Colts cornerbacks. If they can stay with Moss and Stallworth with just single coverage on Stallworth and 1 safety help on Moss, Sanders will be able to sell out at the line and remain around the box to help with Welker and (possibly) Watson. If Moss requires a full double team, or Stallworth proves to be too much one-on-one, Sanders will become much like a certain Redskins safety: a non-factor.
Hahahaha - IF, IF, IF, IF. Next let's play the Brady game. If he hadn't gotten intercepted, if he had been able to protect an 18 point lead, if only his defense would have stepped up - if, if, if. What a moronic game.
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