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Old 03-05-2007, 03:25 PM   #101
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For fun I went back to the thread when Welker was tendered as a #2 pick.

The vote was 10 YES and 8 NO (but I didn't vote, so make that) : 9 NO on spending a #2 on him.

I know there was a poll over the weekend overwhelmingly for it but that was after we though an offer was forthcoming.

I'm surprised the YESes were over 50% but it was 10-9 before we knew the Patriots were interested. Hardly overwhelming.
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Old 03-05-2007, 03:25 PM   #102
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The Dolphins are not going to accept less than the #2 pick.
The Patriots are not going to offer more than the #2 pick.

If there is a trade to be made, it is because the Dolphins would rather have a player than a pick. It's possible a three-way trade is being discussed.

The market for Welker has been established. It is the #60 draft pick.

I'm sorry if someone has stated such. I read through the first two pages and my head started to hurt.
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This dude has it right, but no one is listening to his several posts here. The Fins might simply not want Welker back and they are making FA plans themselves and surely can see some benefit in resolving this matter immediately even if it comes at a lower price than a second rounder.

Just because the Pats may not sign Welker doesn't mean other teams may not try, so Welker's status could remain in limbo for months. The Fins see a team, in this case the Pats, interested in player that has shown an interest in leaving, that could be leaving the team at any time, that could keep the teams plans from moving forward, that could be an unhappy camper come August if retained, etc., and see an opportunity to clear up the situation while weakening a division opponent by definetly getting some kind of compensation from them.

Don't forget that the Fins could be put in a position where another team signs Welker to contract only a slightly out of line and then feel compelled to sign Welker. Picture a team offering a longer contract than the Fins would like to offer but at reasonable price, what then? It's easy to say the Fins would just take the 2nd rounder but how do we know the Fins FO wouldn't end up keeping Welker then regretting the move later because they felt forced to make a decision.

The posters in this thread who insist that the Fins wouldn't agree to a trade for less than a second rounder might want to listen to Belichickfan.
The thing is that it is known the Pats intend to sign Welker either way and the Pats are a division oponent. Why would the Dolphins make it easier for a division rivals to get a player they own the rights to?

I personally think that they want to keep Welker. They want him for the same reason we want him, his value as a receiver and on special teams. The Dolphins will now need to get potentially two players to replace him.

Looking at the age of their team especially at WR, I think they desperately wanted to keep him. Booker is going to be 31 next season. Chambers is going to be 29. Chambers is going into his contract year. Booker's base salary is going to be $4.3 million in 2008. So he is most likely gone. Hagan has yet to show he is a good #3. They probably need Welker as much or more than we do, but a second round pick might be more valuable. I doubt a third is though.
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I never said the Dolphins wouldn't be open to players. I am saying they will not take less than second round value. It could be that they are negotiating player trades, but the Dolphins will not settle for less than a second round pick value.
Ah, sorry. I was confused by all your posts where you were screaming in CAPs that a trade couldn't make any sense.
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The Dolphins are not going to accept less than the #2 pick.
And you know this how ?
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The thing is that it is known the Pats intend to sign Welker either way and the Pats are a division oponent. Why would the Dolphins make it easier for a division rivals to get a player they own the rights to?
And maybe Pioli has called the Dolphins and told them that we don't intend to offer him a RFA contract. None of us know. But logic dictates it's the Patriots that are balking because we could EASILY make a contract the Dolphins wouldn't want to touch.
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If there is a trade to be made, it is because the Dolphins would rather have a player than a pick. It's possible a three-way trade is being discussed.
I will now poke a dog with a stick against by better judgement...

Start naming players and partners in the 3 way, I will start with some 100% made up non-sense.

Scenario 1) Trade for player
Patriots trade Nick Kaczur for Wes Welker

Scenario 2) 3 Way Trade
Patriots send pick 60 to Oakland, Oakland sends randy Moss to Miami

See that was easy, who is next...
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And maybe Pioli has called the Dolphins and told them that we don't intend to offer him a RFA contract. None of us know. But logic dictates it's the Patriots that are balking because we could EASILY make a contract the Dolphins wouldn't want to touch.
If the Pats balk at the 2nd, then it is obvious he won't be leaving Miami. The Dolphins are not dumb enough to accpet less when they are primed for a 2nd rounder.
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just in from reiiss pats give up their 2 1's and a player to be named later for welker
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And you know this how ?
His secret identity is Wayne Hiezanga-chusetts whatever. That guy!
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