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Old 11-19-2006, 05:45 PM   #1
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Default Pretty good offensive play calling and execution, don't you think?

I thought the play calling and exection today was very good today.
And, I thought that Caldwell proved that he could be a decent reciever for us. A decent #2.

And, Gaffney continues to impress considering we got him off the gabage heap.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:49 PM   #2
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Default Re: Pretty good offensive play calling and execution, don't you think?

As I posted in another thread, I loved some of the personell groupings today.

Faulk and Maroney in the backfield.

Faulk wide right with Marone and Brown in the backfield (how long until they hand it off to Troy or a direct-snap to him).

Not a new one but a TE wide with a wr/rb in the slot.

This will allow them to run some more creative plays later in the year and give the playoff teams something to look at.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:55 PM   #3
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Default Re: Pretty good offensive play calling and execution, don't you think?

Personel groupings aside, what worries me is we have still not beaten a great defense.

As someone pointed out in another thread, the Chicago game is key. If the Pats offense can put up some points against the Bears, it would make me feel a whole lot better about things.

I don't expect the Bears offense to put up a lot of points on the Pats. The real key is that the offense plays well. The offense has not played well against good defenses this season even in games they have won. And with all the injuries to the secondary, the offense needs to start carrying some of the load of winning these games.

Yes, they put up 35 today but against a very bad D and had Favre been on his game, no way would it have been a blowout today. He was awful today, missing receivers long, short....you name it. The D is not as good as it was during the SB runs. The offense needs to step up against a solid D and prove they can put up some points.
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Old 11-19-2006, 05:58 PM   #4
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I unfortunately didnt get to see the entire game all the way through as I was battling for the remote with 3 other guys on my ship who all wanted to see their teams play..... but from what I did see, I was as happy as the Minn game. they mixed things up well and seemed to be doing some different things. I have figured all along that the offense wouldnt be a complete product until a week or so from now, so we will see what happens, but no one can say it isnt progress in the right direction
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Old 11-19-2006, 06:15 PM   #5
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Well, NUT, it was an improvement, but not back to form yet. I have the hope that the team is finally out of preseason mode and the coaches are reacting to the situation on the field. I saw a lot more of that this week, especially on the offensive side of the ball, like you said. I saw adjustments to what the d was giving them, etc.

The biggest downside I still see on the offense is Brady. I still think he has a small case of Pay-a-ton,Dread-so itis. He still seems to be trying to win games with each and every play by himself. This seems to result in Tom making mental mistakes, holding on to the ball too long to find the long ball receiver, taking sacks, and forcing the ball into coverage resulting in picks. His strength has always been his game management and sense of time. Look,look,look, throw. Even if it is to the cheerleaders. Now he isn't doing that any more. And the results have been mixed, at best. His surrounding cast is as good as its ever been. He needs to relax and do his job and stop worrying about everyone else doing theirs.
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Personel groupings aside, what worries me is we have still not beaten a great defense.

As someone pointed out in another thread, the Chicago game is key. If the Pats offense can put up some points against the Bears, it would make me feel a whole lot better about things.

I don't expect the Bears offense to put up a lot of points on the Pats. The real key is that the offense plays well. The offense has not played well against good defenses this season even in games they have won. And with all the injuries to the secondary, the offense needs to start carrying some of the load of winning these games.

Yes, they put up 35 today but against a very bad D and had Favre been on his game, no way would it have been a blowout today. He was awful today, missing receivers long, short....you name it. The D is not as good as it was during the SB runs. The offense needs to step up against a solid D and prove they can put up some points.
What does any of that have to do with the play calling today??

It looks as if you need an eye laxative to clear up your ****y outlook.
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I thought it was pretty much the same as we've seen the past few weeks. The new personnel groupings were good, but they still try to force the ball to the tight end too much. Jackson is in there more, but I don't understand with his speed and priduction in college why he's not mroe productive in the pros. Are they finished with screens? And no draws either? I thought the play calling was predictable at times.
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What does any of that have to do with the play calling today??

It looks as if you need an eye laxative to clear up your ****y outlook.
Sorry, I will dumb it down for you.

The play calling really doesn't matter if the offense can't execute against a solid defense.

In case you didn't notice, the offense has had some difficutly executing the plays that were called against good defenses. I have a hard time getting excited over putting up 35 points against a terrible GB defense in a game where their QB couldn't hit the bronze side of a barn.

We definitely saw some different looks today on offense. But the bottom line was the execution was better.

IMO, the Pats did not lose the previous two games because of play calling and I definitely agree with anyone that thinks the Pats should have ran the ball more in the 2nd half against the Colts. The point is both the Colts and Jets were winnable games if the offense had not made so many mistakes.

So I wasn't trying to derail your thread. I guess the point is........execution is as important as the play calling. But go ahead and flame away as you feel necessary.
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when pass are completed with no tipped balls for interceptions and D doesnt commit stupid penalties on 3rd downs..the off play calling is always good
when it fails...mc daniels is a !@#$$,we got outcoached etc etc
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Sorry, I will dumb it down for you.

The play calling really doesn't matter if the offense can't execute against a solid defense.

In case you didn't notice, the offense has had some difficutly executing the plays that were called against good defenses. I have a hard time getting excited over putting up 35 points against a terrible GB defense in a game where their QB couldn't hit the bronze side of a barn.

We definitely saw some different looks today on offense. But the bottom line was the execution was better.

IMO, the Pats did not lose the previous two games because of play calling and I definitely agree with anyone that thinks the Pats should have ran the ball more in the 2nd half against the Colts. The point is both the Colts and Jets were winnable games if the offense had not made so many mistakes.

So I wasn't trying to derail your thread. I guess the point is........execution is as important as the play calling. But go ahead and flame away as you feel necessary.
I still missed the part as to what all that has to do with the play calling TODAY.

All the stuff that you have mentioned has been given a full retal exam on this board over and over again.

No flaming here, just trying keep things on topic.
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