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Old 10-11-2006, 04:12 PM   #1
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Ok, Tom. You just don't get it. Now we are "Patpsychos.com" because you've been caught spreading unspecified gossip while pretending to be a journalist.

http://www.patriots.com/StreamFile.c...011_neplor.mp3 (Listen from 3:57 - 11:00)

The problem is NOT whether what you relayed over your public radio/internet/ whatever show was true or not. The veracity of it is lost in the fact that you throw out the innuendo without specifics.

The issue is that you should either report the fact or don't report the fact. Spending several minutes discussing unspecified innuendo is immoral, unethical and an insult to the listening public (let alone, Chad jackson, his friends and relatives).

By reporting that Chad Jackson did something innappropriate at the fan event is a horrible thing to do if you refuse to specify it. Either give the specifics or don't mention it on your show at all. When you throw out that kind of innuendo, the public is then simply left to its imagination as to what exactly Chad Jackson did. When Tomase's article appeared today, there were probably several readers who were relieved to read that he wasn't inebriated or lewd. YOU left that possibility wide open with your original "reporting".

Isn't that "cute" of you?
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:29 PM   #2
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If that is all it was then why didn't someone just put it in an article before this? What a bunch of ignorant idiots! Because the guy tried to make a joke in what was probably an uncomfortable position he is immature? That doesn't make sense.
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Old 10-11-2006, 04:34 PM   #3
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You can't argue with this guy, I mean like he said afterall we are all idiots who just watch the game on TV and post on a stupid message board...

He says that Tomase didn't see or hear what he is talking about because he was talking to bruschi, yet bruschi was the guy who pulled CJ aside after the "bad joke"...

He is pretty clueless though. I mean like you said, you don't just go and say "he did something bad but im not gonna embarass him and tell you what it is". That is so childish and pointless. Either report what you saw/heard or shut the hell up. It's really as simple as that, and I'd say there's a whole lot more than a handful of people here on this "stupid" messageboard that are a lot smarter than this Casale guy.

Then he wants to trash the entire board calling us all outsideers etc... Yet the point of this whole thing is not that we think this moron is an outsider making things up but that he is a moron for bringing up something in such vague terms and refusing to discuss it. Report it or don't, there is no middle ground.


Funny story though, my friend who knows Casale saw him do something extremely immature and embarassing last year, but he made me promise not to say anything about it so I'll leave it at that...
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I think Casale is the best football guy on Patriots.com, and the site is better off for his presence. As a subscriber (yes, I admit it), I think he was spot on with many of his draft reviews, and he was once a degenerate gambler, so I have a soft spot for him. His scouting reports on opponents are solid, and he does a good job of breaking down the enemy's signature offensive play each week. In the case of innuendo, I think he erred a bit, but I have a feeling it's just from lack of experience as a "reporter". In retrospect, I don't feel it was intended maliciously...I'm sure CJ acted goofy and weird at the gala, and Casale mentioned his impressions. In the end, I'd rather Casale was a bit loose with his opinions, than too tight-lipped, like everyone else in that building. Irresponsible? Sure. But I'll let this one go as long as he keeps writing good articles. Let's not feud with one of the best resources we have. This guy is a real Xs and Os football junkie. As for Andy Hart? That guy is a real psycho...

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Old 10-11-2006, 04:45 PM   #5
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I think Casale is the best football guy on Patriots.com, and the site is better off for his presence. As a subscriber (yes, I admit it), I think he was spot on with many of his draft reviews, and he was once a degenerate gambler, so I have a soft spot for him. His scouting reports on opponents are solid, and he does a good job of breaking down the enemy's signature offensive play each week. In the case of innuendo, I think he erred a bit, but I have a feeling it's just from lack of experience as a "reporter". In retrospect, I don't feel it was intended maliciously...I'm sure CJ acted goofy and weird at the gala, and Casale mentioned his impressions. In the end, I'd rather Casale was a bit loose with his opinions, than too tight-lipped, like everyone else in that building. Irresponsible? Sure. But I'll let this one go as long as he keeps writing good articles. Let's not feud with one of the best resources we have. This guy is a real Xs and Os football junkie. As for Andy Hart? That guy is a real psycho...
PE, you maybe spot on with that about his football knowledge. I'm not saying Casale doesn't know football, etc. (I have never listened to the guy so I have no opinion).

His reporting of unspecified innuendo against a 21 year old rookie far from home (or ANYONE for that matter) is wrong. If it is true, report it. If you can't in order to save your job, then don't - - if Casale has a family to feed, etc. I can't fault him if he doesn't report it at all.

But throwing out a juicy tidbit without specifics, letting the public fill in whatever blanks they want, is just about the most immoral thing someone can do in journalism.
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I think Casale is the best football guy on Patriots.com, and the site is better off for his presence. As a subscriber (yes, I admit it), I think he was spot on with many of his draft reviews, and he was once a degenerate gambler, so I have a soft spot for him. His scouting reports on opponents are solid, and he does a good job of breaking down the enemy's signature offensive play each week. In the case of innuendo, I think he erred a bit, but I have a feeling it's just from lack of experience as a "reporter". In retrospect, I don't feel it was intended maliciously...I'm sure CJ acted goofy and weird at the gala, and Casale mentioned his impressions. In the end, I'd rather Casale was a bit loose with his opinions, than too tight-lipped, like everyone else in that building. Irresponsible? Sure. But I'll let this one go as long as he keeps writing good articles. Let's not feud with one of the best resources we have. This guy is a real Xs and Os football junkie. As for Andy Hart? That guy is a real psycho...
I don't think you are seeing the big picture. This guy completely invents his own silly story about Chad, which is so lame as to be uninteresting, and then the only way he can make it sound significant is to not tell us the truth (because there is no actual story here) but to 'wink, wink, nod, nod' his way out of telling us the very uninteresting and insignificant actual occurence, making it sound like something we really give a crap about, when we don't.

Then he calls out the people at this website.

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You're right. Casale is more a writer than a reporter, and on that show they gab like guys at a bar in a pretty loose, irresponsible manner. I think he did it more out of lack of experience than anything else. Maybe because I'm so confident Chad will turn into a top notch NFL player, I'm more willing to cut Casale some slack for his blunder... Also, I happen to like the fact he reads the site. Remember, any publicity is good publicity.
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Ok, Tom. You just don't get it. Now we are "Patpsychos.com" because you've been caught spreading unspecified gossip while pretending to be a journalist.

http://www.patriots.com/StreamFile.c...011_neplor.mp3 (Listen from 3:57 - 11:00)

The problem is NOT whether what you relayed over your public radio/internet/ whatever show was true or not. The veracity of it is lost in the fact that you throw out the innuendo without specifics.

The issue is that you should either report the fact or don't report the fact. Spending several minutes discussing unspecified innuendo is immoral, unethical and an insult to the listening public (let alone, Chad jackson, his friends and relatives).

By reporting that Chad Jackson did something "innappropriate" at the fan event is a horrible thing to do if you refuse to specify it. Either give the specifics or don't mention it on your show at all. When you throw out that kind of innuendo, the public is then simply left to its imagination as to what exactly Chad Jackson did. When Tomase's article appeared today, there were probably several readers who were relieved to read that he wasn't inebriated or lewd. YOU left that possibility wide open with your original "reporting".

Isn't that "cute" of you?
Shmessy - Did they move it or do you have to click some where else to hear the audo after clicking on the link? It says something like the page can't be found.
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Shmess,
You're right. Casale is more a writer than a reporter, and on that show they gab like guys at a bar in a pretty loose, irresponsible manner. I think he did it more out of lack of experience than anything else. Maybe because I'm so confident Chad will turn into a top notch NFL player, I'm more willing to cut Casale some slack for his blunder... Also, I happen to like the fact he reads the site. Remember, any publicity is good publicity.
Seeing this took months to see the light of day, apparently more people read this site than hear the little radio show.

He's amazed anybody remembers his show, (they don't apparently) and the only reason is a bye week coming up and a top pick who has been injured.

It was a tremendous vortex of a vacuum necessary to make anything on that little crystal radio show "newsworthy".
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Just go to the web page now. We're the topic.
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