Which team has the best starting Safeties? - Page 2 - New England Patriots Forums

***PATSNUTme*** · 07-08-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

thats a bad list.
Sean Taylor at 17? Hes better than Gino..and better or just as good as Polamalu. Sanders too high. Gibril Wilson needs to be on the list as does Mike Minter. my list of top safeties

1. Ed Reed
2. Brian Dawkins
3. Darren Sharper
4. Rodney Harrison
5. Sean Taylor
6. Troy Polamalu
7. Roy Williams
8. Donovan Darius
9. Mike Minter
10. Corey Chavous
11. Mike Brown
12. John Lynch
13. Adrian Wilson
14. Tony Parrish
15. Gibril Wilson
16. Eugene Wilson
17. Bob Sanders
18. Michael Lewis
19. Erik Coleman
20. Michael Boulware

Mitner is listed as 'past his prime". Coleman was listed as 'others",meaning he was in the top 25. Gibril wilson was not named at all.

Lawyer Millory was listed as 'past his prime".

***pats1*** · 07-08-2006, 02:51 PM

How the hell is Donovan Darius THAT high? (#4)

***PATSNUTme*** · 07-08-2006, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pats1

How the hell is Donovan Darius THAT high? (#4)

I don't know. According PFW these rating are suppose to be a "consensus of opinions from, scouts,personnel directors,general managers, and PFW writers.

So, it's an opinion and you know what they say about opinions.

***Miguel*** · 07-08-2006, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

Well according to Pro Football Weekly, it's the NE Patriots.

They rank Rodney as #5.

That is in spite of the "devasting" injury he suffered. So, they must think that he will be back at near full capability. Which i have been saying all along.

And they rank Gino as #18.

The only other team that is remotely close is Minn with Sharper and the newly aquired Hank Williams.

If Brian Dawkins is higher than Rodney AND Michael Lewis is higher than Wilson, then Pro Football Weekly is saying that the Eagles have the best starting safeties.

Keeping it real,

Miguel

***PATSNUTme*** · 07-09-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel

If Brian Dawkins is higher than Rodney AND Michael Lewis is higher than Wilson, then Pro Football Weekly is saying that the Eagles have the best starting safeties.

Keeping it real,

Miguel

You are right ole eagle eye. Thanks for pointing that out. I can't delete the thread now so:

NEW THEAD TITLE: WHICH TEAM HAS THE 2nd BEST RANKED SAFETIES ACCORDING TO PFW?

But I think Rodney is better than Dawkins and Gino is better than Lewis. So in my heart the Patriots have the top ranked safeties.

SeanBruschi54 · 07-09-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PATSNUTme

OK. Just the Safeties. It wouldb e too much to list all the other positions and the top 50 overall, regardless of position. Brady is #1 on that list plus QB's.

1. Ed Reed
2. Polamalu
3.Brian Dawkins
4.Darius
5.Rodney

6.Sharper
7.Lynch
8.Roy Williams
9.bob Sanders
10.Archuleta
11. Adrian Wilson
12. Mike Brown
13.Chavous
14.tony Parrish
15.Michael Lewis
16.Gino

17.Sean Taylor
18.Michael Boulware
19.Dwight Smith
20.Chris Hope

Adam Archuleta couldnt beat out Don Davis. He is horrid.

Remix 6 · 07-09-2006, 10:57 AM

what makes you think Dawkins isnt better than Harrison? Dawkins is younger and better in coverage and isnt coming off an injury. Lewis is slightly better than Gino aswell. a better comparsion would be if u put Harrison vs Lewis ( both Strong Safeties) and Dawkins vs Wilson ( Free Safeties)

***PATSNUTme*** · 07-09-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Remix 6

what makes you think Dawkins isnt better than Harrison? Dawkins is younger and better in coverage and isnt coming off an injury. Lewis is slightly better than Gino aswell. a better comparsion would be if u put Harrison vs Lewis ( both Strong Safeties) and Dawkins vs Wilson ( Free Safeties)

OK. So, if we do that, then we are back to #1?

BTW, NO ONE is better than Rodney when you look at the total package including the very important intangibles.

5 Rings for Brady!! · 07-09-2006, 12:27 PM

Rodney is a 'Hall of Famer' that will never get in the Hall of Fame, IMO. The other guys, including Lynch, are just safeties.

Rodney didn't play any dirtier than any Hall of Fame safeties, and hits as hard as Ronnie Lott, IMO.

But we live in the era of sanitized football, so guys like Ed Reed top the list.

Remix 6 · 07-09-2006, 12:32 PM

were not doing career best.

Rodney is coming off a knee injury that was very serious and is older than those safeties. im a big Harrison fan trust me..but at this time, hes not as good as Brian Dawkins and i watch both those guys play because safety is 1 of my fav. positions.

Eagles-Patriots are neck to neck in this one..2 talented safety duos but you cant simply say were better at the position without backing much up. Lewis and Wilson looked lost last year and Harrison was hurt while Dawkins made Pro Bowl. Based on last year, Eagles were better. Based on 2-3 years ago when Rodney came, we were slightly better and looking at this year..Eagles will have the better duo because Rodney likely ownt start day 1 and their D is more improved than ours and have 2 pro bowl caliber corners while ours havent proven much.