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Agreed. The Cowboys just didn't know how to win and have a terrible coaching staff (after Parcells left).
If I'm not mistaken, the Saints didn't have many guys out or anybody too significant. The Cowboys beat them straight up and showed they can match up with them. However, the Cowboys struggle against strong pass rushers like the Vikings D-line.
As far as the Eagles go, one center does not cripple your entire offense. In fact, it's a cop out. The Cowboys were the best team in the division in 2009 and look to be the best team in the division for the next few years.
If the Cowboys can avoid the Vikings, they have a very good chance of making the super bowl.
just FYI
and we lost by 4pts by a sack on the cowboy 34. Cowboys could never beat the Saints full strength. Now the Packers are a good team and another story. We wanted the Cowboys for the playoffs, so we could wipe them of the face of the earth for all the bragging they did after beating 1/2 of our starting team.
Saints vs Cowboys
Saints: DNP:
DT Sedrick Ellis (knee),
CB Jabari Greer (groin).
T Jermon Bushrod (thumb),
G Jahri Evans (foot),
LB Scott Fujita (knee),
C Jonathan Goodwin (ankle),
K Garrett Hartley (right hip),
DE Bobby McCray (back),
LB Marvin Mitchell (hamstring),
G Carl Nicks (back),
CB Tracy Porter (knee),
TE Jeremy Shockey (toe),
T Jon Stinchcomb (knee),
RB Pierre Thomas (hip),
LB Jonathan Vilma (knee),
S Usama Young (hip)
RB Mike Bell (wrist, knee),
WR Lance Moore (ankle, hamstring)
S Darren Shaper ( ankle )Limited play
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Saints vs Cowboys
and we lost by 4pts by a sack on the cowboy 34. Cowboys could never beat us full strength. Now the Packers are a good team and another story.
Saints: DNP:
DT Sedrick Ellis (knee),
CB Jabari Greer (groin).
T Jermon Bushrod (thumb),
G Jahri Evans (foot),
LB Scott Fujita (knee),
C Jonathan Goodwin (ankle),
K Garrett Hartley (right hip),
DE Bobby McCray (back),
LB Marvin Mitchell (hamstring),
G Carl Nicks (back),
CB Tracy Porter (knee),
TE Jeremy Shockey (toe),
T Jon Stinchcomb (knee),
RB Pierre Thomas (hip),
LB Jonathan Vilma (knee),
S Usama Young (hip)
RB Mike Bell (wrist, knee),
WR Lance Moore (ankle, hamstring)
S Darren Shaper ( ankle )Limited play
and we lost by 4pts by a sack on the cowboy 34. Cowboys could never beat the Saints full strength. Now the Packers are a good team and another story. We wanted the Cowboys for the playoffs, so we could wipe them of the face of the earth for all the bragging they did after beating 1/2 of our starting team.
Saints vs Cowboys
Saints: DNP:
DT Sedrick Ellis (knee),
CB Jabari Greer (groin).
T Jermon Bushrod (thumb),
G Jahri Evans (foot),
LB Scott Fujita (knee),
C Jonathan Goodwin (ankle),
K Garrett Hartley (right hip),
DE Bobby McCray (back),
LB Marvin Mitchell (hamstring),
G Carl Nicks (back),
CB Tracy Porter (knee),
TE Jeremy Shockey (toe),
T Jon Stinchcomb (knee),
RB Pierre Thomas (hip),
LB Jonathan Vilma (knee),
S Usama Young (hip)
RB Mike Bell (wrist, knee),
WR Lance Moore (ankle, hamstring)
S Darren Shaper ( ankle )Limited play
Ultimately, it doesn't matter who you play, but when you play them - alot like the Arizona Cardinals in their 2008 playoff run. When Ken Wisenhunt decided to run a balanced attack instead of airing it out 50 X's a game, that's when the Cardinals made that playoff run at the end of the year(only to come up short in the Super Bowl).
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Ultimately, it doesn't matter who you play, but when you play them - alot like the Arizona Cardinals in their 2008 playoff run. When Ken Wisenhunt decided to run a balanced attack instead of airing it out 50 X's a game, that's when the Cardinals made that playoff run at the end of the year(only to come up short in the Super Bowl).
Totally agree DisgruntledTunaFan, dont forget to add to that list the Patriots vs Ravens, you guys were pretty banged up by that point. I dont think a fully healthy Ravens beat a fully healthy Patriots. Just my take.
As far as the Eagles go, one center does not cripple your entire offense. In fact, it's a cop out.
Yea? kinda how losing neal didnt cripple our offense in the game that shall not be named... I think losing your anchor on the o-line no matter what position causes a domino effect whether it's RG or C you win and lose games in the trenches.
jus my 0.02
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and we lost by 4pts by a sack on the cowboy 34. Cowboys could never beat the Saints full strength. Now the Packers are a good team and another story. We wanted the Cowboys for the playoffs, so we could wipe them of the face of the earth for all the bragging they did after beating 1/2 of our starting team.
Wow, my bad.
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Yea? kinda how losing neal didnt cripple our offense in the game that shall not be named... I think losing your anchor on the o-line no matter what position causes a domino effect whether it's RG or C you win and lose games in the trenches.
jus my 0.02
Cop out. That what it is. What lost that game against the Giants was the Pats going insane and kept running plays that weren't working. They gave up on the run which may have at least slowed down the Giants'. Instead, they kept running plays that took two long to develop until the 4th quarter when they dink and dunked their way to a TD.
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Cop out. That what it is. What lost that game against the Giants was the Pats going insane and kept running plays that weren't working. They gave up on the run which may have at least slowed down the Giants'. Instead, they kept running plays that took two long to develop until the 4th quarter when they dink and dunked their way to a TD.
That is exactly right. The blitz-happy Giants came from everywhere all game at that line and backfield. The 2003-2004 Pats would have said, meet my little friend Cory Dillon and his running buddies Patrick Pass and Kevin Faulk. A little smash-mouth blocking and running would have opened up the passing game but the Pats kept running those complex patterns that weren't working like they had against the Redskins.
Neal would have helped but a better game plan would have won it.
That is exactly right. The blitz-happy Giants came from everywhere all game at that line and backfield. The 2003-2004 Pats would have said, meet my little friend Cory Dillon and his running buddies Patrick Pass and Kevin Faulk. A little smash-mouth blocking and running would have opened up the passing game but the Pats kept running those complex patterns that weren't working like they had against the Redskins.
Neal would have helped but a better game plan would have won it.
This just made me think of what the 2007 patriots would have looked like with a 2004 Corey Dillon on the team
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That is exactly right. The blitz-happy Giants came from everywhere all game at that line and backfield. The 2003-2004 Pats would have said, meet my little friend Cory Dillon and his running buddies Patrick Pass and Kevin Faulk. A little smash-mouth blocking and running would have opened up the passing game but the Pats kept running those complex patterns that weren't working like they had against the Redskins.
Neal would have helped but a better game plan would have won it.
It's tough to game plan for a 2004 Corey Dillon when you haven't had that guy on the roster since 2004...let alone when Faulk gets dinged up and your 3rd stringer is BLGE because you lost Morris halfway through the season. And had Neal been out back then...but he wasn't. Just like he wasn't out when we FINALLY took the field after the defense gave up a FG on the longest drive in Superbowl history and scored a TD. Once Neal left the game the Giants front 4 rush found it's footing and it was effective no matter what we tried...
Re: T.O would take less for us...
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