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Old 06-12-2010, 10:35 PM   #11
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Why isn't Myron Pryor getting any love? I've seen several stories and posts like this recently. It seems like they mention everyone on the D-line except Pryor. I don't get it. Last year I thought he looked damn good as a rookie, certainly better than Brace or Richard, and if he makes a solid jump from year one to year two we may have us a stud.
Probably because Pryor is a prototypical 1-gap 3-tech. He's a great nickel rusher, and we're all glad to have him, but he's not really an ideal end. He could play there in a pinch, I'm sure, but he's a much better interior player.
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Why isn't Myron Pryor getting any love? I've seen several stories and posts like this recently. It seems like they mention everyone on the D-line except Pryor. I don't get it. Last year I thought he looked damn good as a rookie, certainly better than Brace or Richard, and if he makes a solid jump from year one to year two we may have us a stud.
I am a Pryor supporter too, and think that he can possibly earn some increased reps as the year goes on....on the inside though, as a DT. This has been the position he has played at Kentucky too, and this is how he was used last year.

The specific link regarding G.Warren, Lewis, Wright etc was regarding RDE, that is why Pryor wasn't included.

Myron Pryor is simply too small at 6'1"" to be our RDE. (edit: at least on a consistent basis)

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It'd be easier to get excited about Brace if he had actually earned any playing time last year, as opposed to just being forced in there because of injury. I'm not giving up on the guy after one year, but I'm certainly not gonna get excited about what he does in practice in June after what he did last year (nothing).
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Brace taking snaps at 3-4 DE would make that line the most unathletic 3-4 DL in football.

Any decent QB, should he see Brace on the outside, would run a sweep to his side, or a screen, or a pass, or anything but a play that called for a RB to run straight ahead.

If Brace cannot play NT for us, then he cannot play anywhere for us.
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Brace taking snaps at 3-4 DE would make that line the most unathletic 3-4 DL in football.

Any decent QB, should he see Brace on the outside, would run a sweep to his side, or a screen, or a pass, or anything but a play that called for a RB to run straight ahead.

If Brace cannot play NT for us, then he cannot play anywhere for us.
A two gapping 3-4 does not feature "athletic" linemen up front. It features guys capable of taking up two blockers. Typically, in order to do that, you need size. That's what Brace has.
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Only Brace has the physical potential to be a serious nose tackle in the NFL, therefore he will be retained until he blows it, or progresses.

He's not really in competition with anyone but himself, therefore, since he'll be given time to learn, they'd like him to have some versatility while he takes up a roster spot.
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Is my irrational hatred for Brace and love for Pryor wrong?
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Brace played a lot of DE last year in training camp and got a lot of praises. It looks like he may be switching positions.
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A two gapping 3-4 does not feature "athletic" linemen up front. It features guys capable of taking up two blockers. Typically, in order to do that, you need size. That's what Brace has.
There's "athletic" and then there's "athletic." Brace was the slowest defensive player in the entire draft his year. Plus the DE position puts a premium on length, and Brace is pretty average on that measure -- 6'3.0" with 33 3/4" arms. (Compare to the two "throwaway" 7th-round rookies: Deaderick 6'3.7" 34 3/8", Weston 6'4.6" 34 1/2")

As for why fans are so down on him after just one year, here are three reasons:

- Myron Pryor was busy making "he's just a rookie" look weak
- That street FA they played ahead of Brace for a couple of games before cutting him eliminated the "lace of opportunity" excuse
- History really isn't behind the notion that Patriots defenders routinely spend their rookie years inactive, then go on to good careers

Needles to say, though, I'd be delighted to be proved wrong.
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