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Old 03-23-2006, 09:53 AM   #1
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Good stuff here :

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Old 03-23-2006, 09:57 AM   #2
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Great find!

That beefcake photo of Adam is one of the most putrid things I've seen in a while. Man does think rather highly of himself, no?
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That beefcake photo of Adam is one of the most putrid things I've seen in a while
Yeah, I could have done without that
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I tend to agree how emotions get into things..I would have liked him to stay..but??? He didn't wish to...so let us all move on!!!
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Great find!

That beefcake photo of Adam is one of the most putrid things I've seen in a while. Man does think rather highly of himself, no?

....so when Brady does a similar photo spread it's NOT putrid?

Adam is a good looking guy.
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Adam is a good looking guy.
Well, allright then. And, no, I don't want to see Tommy with his shirt off either.
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No, its most definitely putrid when TB does it. Seen the barnyard pictoral?

Price you pay for winning Super Bowls.

On the article: my prediction is that its just going to make too much goddam sense for a few of us. I'm sure we'll soon have a thread devoted to refuting this piece.
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Thanks for the link. Some parts I liked:
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A right guard who makes $1.5 million per year might participate in 900 or 1,000 snaps over the course of the season. A kicker participates in 60 or 70. It’s unreasonable to pay twice as much for a 60-play-a-year man than you would for a 1,000-play-a-year man – no matter how many great, emotional memories you may have of that 60-play-a-year guy.

Yes, we realize that kickers play a uniquely pivotal role in the course of a game – often marching onto the field at key moments to provide the last-second margin of victory or defeat. These dramatic moments make all the highlight shows. These moments also help fuel our arch-enemy, emotion.

The truth is that these few emotion-filled moments are no more important than the mundane contributions of the right guard who has 1,000 opportunities over the course of the season to affect the outcome of a play.
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I've said this in other threads, and I'll say it one last time. Vinatieri was clutch in some big games for us in the past, but he is 33, and last year he was only 4 for 8 in 40+ field goals. Belichick didn't have faith in Vinatieri's range last year, which is why the Pats went for it on 4th down so many times at around the 30 yard line.

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Finally,

So far everything I have been reading has been critical of the Pats and very sympathetic to Adam.

Finally, we get to hear the other side!

This part below pretty much somes up how I felt about it.

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Vinatieri told New England to screw.

New England made several good-faith offers to Vinatieri over the years. He’s been one of the highest-paid kickers in the league for many seasons and would have remained one of the highest-paid kickers in the league had he stayed with New England.

In fact, the Patriots were already paying too much for him, considering a kicker’s infrequent contributions – 1 of every 35 plays – to team success. The Patriots had already upset their formula and essentially rewarded Vinatieri for his contributions to the birth of a dynasty. He was already paid far more than a kicker is generally worth.

New England, in other words, had already made exceptions to its formula to keep Vinatieri.

The kicker responded with a big, fat middle finger on his way out of town.


According to most reports, Indy will pay Vinatieri a $3.5 million signing bonus and $2.5 million per year. Considering the salary and endorsement deals Vinatieri had been getting in New England, the difference in pay will be negligible at best.

But being an extremely well-paid kicker on a rare NFL dynasty wasn’t good enough for Vinatieri. He wanted to be the highest-paid kicker in football. More power to him. We’re devout capitalists, too.

But it doesn’t change the fact that he told New England and its fans to shove it when he opted to sign for marginally more money with the team’s most hated rival.

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Finally,

So far everything I have been reading has been critical of the Pats and very sympathetic to Adam.

Finally, we get to hear the other side!

This part below pretty much somes up how I felt about it.
Hurrumpft to that! Agreed!
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