Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year - New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard
NEWS
|
FORUM
|
PHOTOS
|
VIDEOS
|
FULL STATS DATABASE
|
PODCAST
|
RUMOR MILL
Get Social With PatsFans.com
Early Roster Projection
Ryan's Journey Started Early
POST DRAFT PODCAST

Go Back   New England Patriots Forums - PatsFans.com Patriots Fan Messageboard > PatsFans.com Forums > PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum
Forgot Password? Join PatsFans.com!
Register Blogs FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room

WELCOME TO OUR FORUM HERE AT PATSFANS.COM!
ARE YOU NEW HERE? NOT LOGGED IN? PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO REGISTER FOR AN ACCOUNT AND LOGIN TO REMOVE THIS WINDOW

Welcome to PatsFans.com. Do you have an account? If not - please take a moment to register for our forum and experience a much smoother experience with fewer ads, along with no longer having to see this notification window. Also learn about how you can receive a free Patriots T-Shirt from the Patriots Official ProShop by CLICKING HERE. Please enjoy your stay here, and Go Pats!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-25-2010, 02:01 PM   #1
PatsFans.com Veteran
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 17,128
Default Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

This seems the best way to get a 3rd or a 3rd and a 5th.
mgteich is offline  
FEATURED ADVERTISEMENT
DONATE TO PATSFANS.COM
RECEIVE A FREE PATS T-SHIRT AND SAVE 15% OFF WHEN YOU BUY FROM THE OFFICIAL PROSHOP!

Free T-Shirt & Save 15% Off!
Like Our Site? Please help support our site and server costs by DONATING TO PATSFANS.COM and receive a FREE PATRIOTS T-SHIRT and SAVE 15% off EVERY purchase you make from PatriotsProShop.com. You'll also receive added benefits to your account
including Removing All Ads During Your Experience Here At Our Forum.

NEEDED YEARLY SITE DONATIONS: 345 | CURRENT # OF SUBSCRIBED SUPPORTERS: 98

Updated 07/08/11

Help Us Reach Our Goal!

Old 03-25-2010, 02:23 PM   #2
Second Team and Threatening Starter's Job
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,033
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

Not really.

Trading down in either first or second round could get us a third.

Trading a player could get us a third.
__________________
Paul, London - Patriot and Proud
patriotscpfc is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 02:39 PM   #3
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 
Nonentity's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: London, UK
Posts: 544
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

It'll be situational - it's not the sort of trade you can agree in advance. If the right player is falling and they're a solid prospect (rather than a boom-bust pick) then I'd be ok with it. But a future 2nd round pick is not the kind I'd be too happy with busting on, unlike a normal 3rd - hopefully that distinction makes sense!
Nonentity is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 02:41 PM   #4
Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract
 
Fencer's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,392
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

There are only so many rookies we can keep before things get pretty wasteful.

Vets it would be wasteful to cut

DBs: 9-10
LBs: 4+ Mayo, Guyton, TBC, McKenzie (we hope), Crable (we hope with less optimism)
DL: 5 Warren, Wilfork, Wright, Brace, Pryor

plus there's Burgess

That's around 20 returning guys, assuming I'm not missing anybody

K/LS: 2 returning guys

TE: 1 under contract
RBs: 4+ keepers (Faulk, Maroney, Morris, Taylor)
WRs: 5+ keepers (Moss, Tate, Edelman, maybe Stanbach, maybe Aiken, maybe Slater, maybe a new vet -- Welker doesn't count against the initial 53)
QBs: 2
OL: 6+ keepers (last year's starters, Vollmer, the best backups)

Yes, we could keep 5+ rookies each on offense and defense, plus a punter. But that only makes sense if the rest of FA is really as sparse as the pessimists fear.
__________________
"To lose one parent may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness." -- Oscar Wilde
Fencer is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 02:43 PM   #5
Third String But Playing on Special Teams
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 920
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

Oh, heck no!
reamer is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 02:46 PM   #6
On The Game Day Roster
 

Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 345
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

Honestly, IF they can get two solid players at 22 & 44, I would rather trade 47 or 53 back for a pair of 3rd with CLE or PHI.

That would still give us a 1st - two 2nds - and two 3rds.

It would be enough to get a DE, OLB, WR, and two of OL-TE-RB in the top 100 picks.
Taxed in Maine is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 02:47 PM   #7
PatsFans.com Supporter
 
FreeTedWilliams's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: free from the cold
Posts: 5,031
My Mood: Grumpy
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

What would be better as if we never traded a 5th for a guy who never even made the club!!

The Pats have wasted a few draft picks lately on players who never even say the field.
__________________
The Jets look like a Super Bowl contender right now about as much as Rosie O’Donnell looks like a threat for the Miss America crown. -NY Post 12/19/2011


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
FreeTedWilliams is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 02:56 PM   #8
All Pro Poster
 
PATSYLICIOUS's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 10,224
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

We have enough picks in round 1 and 2 to make up for the loss of a 3rd
__________________
Organized madness
The young Gott-stra
Young Frank Sinatra
PATSYLICIOUS is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 03:00 PM   #9
PatsFans.com Veteran
 
AndyJohnson's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 18,624
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

Quote:
Originally Posted by mgteich View Post
This seems the best way to get a 3rd or a 3rd and a 5th.
For what purpose? Just to have a 3rd? Then what do you do next year when you dont have a second?
It only makes sense to do that if there is a player on the board that you value more than next years 2nd, not just because we dont have a 3rd round pick.
AndyJohnson is offline  
Old 03-25-2010, 04:02 PM   #10
Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal
 
signbabybrady's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Foxboro
Posts: 8,296
My Mood: Buzzed
Default Re: Trade a 2011 2nd back into this year

Quote:
Originally Posted by FreeTedWilliams View Post
What would be better as if we never traded a 5th for a guy who never even made the club!!

The Pats have wasted a few draft picks lately on players who never even say the field.
We have 12 picks in this years draft 4 in the first 2 RDs!!! are you really complaining about the way they trade picks? Giving up a 5 for anything you think can help your team IMO is very much worth it especially when your draft is as stocked as it is now. Sure with hindsight I wish they hadn't done it but I can't criticize the value of the trade (you could criticize the pro scouts or BB who signed off on it for their evaluation of the player but not the giving up a pick)

News flash every team wastes picks on guys who never see the field they are called draft busts. So who cares if we wasted a 5 on vet player instead of a dud rookie?



As to the OP: I think this all depends on what is there that you are trying to get. Due to the depth of this draft I wouldn't rule it out but it hasn't exactly been this teams MO to reduce its draft flexability in one year for another years draft.
__________________
"We go down to New Orleans, and ain't anybody give us a chance? Nobody! And what did we say to them?"

"DON'T TALK TO ME!!!"

Last edited by signbabybrady; 03-25-2010 at 04:04 PM..
signbabybrady is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Sponsored Links



Thread Tools
Display Modes


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2

© Copyright 2000-2012. PatsFans.com Is a Partner of USA TODAY Sports Digital Properties.
The opinions posted in this forum do not necessarily reflect the opinions of our staff at PatsFans.com or USA Today.
We are not affiliated with the New England Patriots™ or the NFL™. The Photo Used In the header was taken by Ian Logue.

This site is owned and operated by I&K Internet Design Enterprises, LLC