We need Coordinators, what do we do?? - New England Patriots Forums

***fgssand*** · 01-15-2006, 06:06 PM

Assuming we lose Eric Mangini, we have two coordinator roles to fill.

What BB guys are out there that might be considered for both the offensive and defensive positions.

Maybe an older coach that wont be leaving us as soon as a HC job becomes available? Maybe someone in the professional or college ranks that have ties to Belichick.

Defense - Maybe from within, Pees, Pepper? Maybe someone from the outside, Ryan, what other Belichick guys are around?

Offense, do we promote from within with say McDaniel or do we look in a different direction and bring in a Fassell or even a Martz (stop laughing and consider the possibility of a Martz with our offense, without him having to try to manage a game), maybe some coach from the Belichick tree are around. We need to find someone that can keep the basics of the offense as I hate to see a complete new system and changing Brady at this point - but more so, someone that can execute and improve what is in place.

***bobgeorge*** · 01-15-2006, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fgssand

Offense, do we promote from within with say McDaniel or do we look in a different direction and bring in a Fassell or even a Martz (stop laughing and consider the possibility of a Martz with our offense, without him having to try to manage a game)

I see your point, but I don't like Martz as our OC. I know that he flourished in STL under Vermeil, but I see two problems if he became our OC... 1) I don't think Dillon would be an ideal fit in his system and 2) I see BB overruling him a lot on key calls and a potential offensive power struggle.

Bob G

***BelichickFan*** · 01-15-2006, 07:08 PM

I don't think McDaniels being named OC would be a promotion, simply making the job official.

The Gr8est · 01-15-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fgssand

Assuming we lose Eric Mangini, we have two coordinator roles to fill.

What BB guys are out there that might be considered for both the offensive and defensive positions.

Maybe an older coach that wont be leaving us as soon as a HC job becomes available? Maybe someone in the professional or college ranks that have ties to Belichick.

Defense - Maybe from within, Pees, Pepper? Maybe someone from the outside, Ryan, what other Belichick guys are around?

Offense, do we promote from within with say McDaniel or do we look in a different direction and bring in a Fassell or even a Martz (stop laughing and consider the possibility of a Martz with our offense, without him having to try to manage a game), maybe some coach from the Belichick tree are around. We need to find someone that can keep the basics of the offense as I hate to see a complete new system and changing Brady at this point - but more so, someone that can execute and improve what is in place.

BB is a guy who like to develop coaches...but it is very difficult when other teams desperate for a branch from your tree come calling way before the fruit even gets a chance to ripen.

"The Patriots announced the addition of Joseph Shmoe as a 1st year coaching intern....in other news the Jets have said they would like to interview Shmoe for their open HC position."

***BelichickFan*** · 01-15-2006, 07:16 PM

I keep waiting for Josh McDaniels to get an interview to be a head coach

***jczxohn1*** · 01-15-2006, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bobgeorge

I see your point, but I don't like Martz as our OC. I know that he flourished in STL under Vermeil, but I see two problems if he became our OC... 1) I don't think Dillon would be an ideal fit in his system and 2) I see BB overruling him a lot on key calls and a potential offensive power struggle.

Bob G

I mentioned Martz a few monthe ago, but I've heard he'll hold out for an HC job. Ego is a funny thing, once you decide you have one, it's hard to give up regardless of the facts. Hard to say if BB will reach out or stay in house. Right now he doesn't seem too enthralled with anybody.

The Gr8est · 01-15-2006, 07:18 PM

Doesn't it seem strange that no one ever comes to the great Colts team looking for a HC?

***MoLewisrocks*** · 01-15-2006, 07:26 PM

I wouldn't assume Mangini is gone just yet. And while I know some hereabouts believe it's in vogue to blame the coordinators (or even the HC) regardless of extenuating circumstances, rememner folks BB wasn't hatched from an egg. Coaches are developed over a number of seasons. BB has a lot invested in Mangini and some in McDaniels. He's not going to go outside his own tree and deal with a coordinator who doesn't understand him or his system or the Patriot way. It is what it is so to say.

Besides, if we execute the system wins Lombardis. Look to the players (and random crappy luck where injuries are concerned) for at least half of the problems this season. The players and coaches do.