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Honestly, the Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. And the writers have begun to recognize it as such.
When people look at the Stats and their accomplishments, people are going to see Bruschi with the 5 SB appearances and pause to think about it. It will also force them to re-evaluate Bruschi's time. Much like they had to do with Andre Tippett. In the end, who knows if Bruschi will be considered a Hall of Famer. In my book, he's been one since the day he stepped back onto the field after his stroke.
Gonna Miss You Tedy...
That makes a lot of sense, his jersey will be retired and he will receive his due here.. on the national stage the equilizer may be the 5 sb appearances + the stroke ... he has a lot of kodak moments that will resonate when the time comes.
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Number of All-Pro appearances.
Number of DPOY awards.
Number of SB MVP awards.
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Number of All-Pro appearances.
Number of DPOY awards.
Number of SB MVP awards.
Number of seasons a player is credited with more tackles than defensive snaps (if Rick Gosselin's research can be trusted)?
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I love Bruschi and all, but let's not get crazy here. My eyes tell me that Ray Lewis is a better player. Outside of NE fanboys, this conversation is ridiculous. Sorry.
I love Bruschi and all, but let's not get crazy here. My eyes tell me that Ray Lewis is a better player. Outside of NE fanboys, this conversation is ridiculous. Sorry.
Everyone said the same thing about Andre Tippett as well.. Because he was over-shadowed by Lawrence Taylor.
But you missed some things in today's Press Conference that were pretty telling, IMHO. Belichick, who is never one to give praise lightly, said this about Bruschi...
1) Called him the Perfect Player
2) Called him an ALL PRO
3) Called him the BEST LB he's ever coached.
Ok. The 1st is pretty laudable. The 2nd had me curious. But the last one floored me. Especially since Belichick has coached guys like Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, and Harry Carson.. And Belichick called Bruschi the BEST. And, had you watched it, Belichick wasn't saying it out of posterity or out of false pretenses. His face said he meant it.
Another thing that surprised me was the report on AOL. The title read"
If we're such "NE FAN BOYS" why would an AP reporter who doesn't regularly cover the Patriots call Bruschi an "NFL STAR."
While Bruschi didn't have the DPOY award or the SB MVP (though a good case could have been made for him in SB39 against the Eagles), or 1st Team ALL PRO Awards (no such thing as ALL PRO appearances as ALL PRO doesn't = PRO BOWL). Bruschi does have other things..
Here are Bruschi's numbers:
189 Games Played
139 Starts
30.5 Sacks
12 Interceptions (including 4 consecutive for TDs)
44 Passes Defensed
16 Forced Fumbles
2 2nd Teamm ALL PRO AWARDS (2003/2004)
5 SB Appearances
3 SB Victories
13 seasons with the same team
BTW, Bruschi's numbers are almost identical to Harry Carson's numbers.. And Harry Carson is considered one of the Best ILBs to play the game.
Bruschi didn't get the noteriety that Carson got because Carson had Taylor and Banks around him while Bruschi had Ted Johnson, Mike Vrabel, and Willie McGinest. It doesn't lessen either player.
Everyone said the same thing about Andre Tippett as well.. Because he was over-shadowed by Lawrence Taylor.
But you missed some things in today's Press Conference that were pretty telling, IMHO. Belichick, who is never one to give praise lightly, said this about Bruschi...
1) Called him the Perfect Player
2) Called him an ALL PRO
3) Called him the BEST LB he's ever coached.
Ok. The 1st is pretty laudable. The 2nd had me curious. But the last one floored me. Especially since Belichick has coached guys like Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, and Harry Carson.. And Belichick called Bruschi the BEST. And, had you watched it, Belichick wasn't saying it out of posterity or out of false pretenses. His face said he meant it.
Another thing that surprised me was the report on AOL. The title read"
If we're such "NE FAN BOYS" why would an AP reporter who doesn't regularly cover the Patriots call Bruschi an "NFL STAR."
While Bruschi didn't have the DPOY award or the SB MVP (though a good case could have been made for him in SB39 against the Eagles), or 1st Team ALL PRO Awards (no such thing as ALL PRO appearances as ALL PRO doesn't = PRO BOWL). Bruschi does have other things..
Here are Bruschi's numbers:
189 Games Played
139 Starts
30.5 Sacks
12 Interceptions (including 4 consecutive for TDs)
44 Passes Defensed
16 Forced Fumbles
2 2nd Teamm ALL PRO AWARDS (2003/2004)
5 SB Appearances
3 SB Victories
13 seasons with the same team
BTW, Bruschi's numbers are almost identical to Harry Carson's numbers.. And Harry Carson is considered one of the Best ILBs to play the game.
Bruschi didn't get the noteriety that Carson got because Carson had Taylor and Banks around him while Bruschi had Ted Johnson, Mike Vrabel, and Willie McGinest. It doesn't lessen either player.
Belichick's comments floored me too, and have me rethinking my position on Bruschi pretty fundamentally. He's always been one of my favorite players, and I love the guy, but I had him falling short of the HOF. I still don't think he'll make it, but the fact that Belichick adamantly believes that he belongs there means something...
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Everyone said the same thing about Andre Tippett as well.. Because he was over-shadowed by Lawrence Taylor.
But you missed some things in today's Press Conference that were pretty telling, IMHO. Belichick, who is never one to give praise lightly, said this about Bruschi...
1) Called him the Perfect Player
2) Called him an ALL PRO
3) Called him the BEST LB he's ever coached.
Ok. The 1st is pretty laudable. The 2nd had me curious. But the last one floored me. Especially since Belichick has coached guys like Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, and Harry Carson.. And Belichick called Bruschi the BEST. And, had you watched it, Belichick wasn't saying it out of posterity or out of false pretenses. His face said he meant it.
Another thing that surprised me was the report on AOL. The title read"
If we're such "NE FAN BOYS" why would an AP reporter who doesn't regularly cover the Patriots call Bruschi an "NFL STAR."
While Bruschi didn't have the DPOY award or the SB MVP (though a good case could have been made for him in SB39 against the Eagles), or 1st Team ALL PRO Awards (no such thing as ALL PRO appearances as ALL PRO doesn't = PRO BOWL). Bruschi does have other things..
Here are Bruschi's numbers:
189 Games Played
139 Starts
30.5 Sacks
12 Interceptions (including 4 consecutive for TDs)
44 Passes Defensed
16 Forced Fumbles
2 2nd Teamm ALL PRO AWARDS (2003/2004)
5 SB Appearances
3 SB Victories
13 seasons with the same team
BTW, Bruschi's numbers are almost identical to Harry Carson's numbers.. And Harry Carson is considered one of the Best ILBs to play the game.
Bruschi didn't get the noteriety that Carson got because Carson had Taylor and Banks around him while Bruschi had Ted Johnson, Mike Vrabel, and Willie McGinest. It doesn't lessen either player.
Belichick was emotional. You can't based Bruschi's ranking among great ILBs based on his emotional press conference. Bruschi is a good LB. But to compare him amongst the best ever? No way.
He was great in Belichick's system which is all about doing your job and being selfless. But Bruschi was not the type of player that other teams game-plan around their offense. Seymour is that type of player in our team. Seau was that type of player in his prime as well as Ray Lewis, Singletary, Lawrence Taylor, etc.
Lastly, we all love Belichick, but he's the biggest bull*****ter. Listen to all his press conferences, they're all a joke. If he said that Bruschi is the best LB he's ever coached, you've gotta take that with a grain of salt.
Re: Bruschi vs. Ray Lewis
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