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Old 12-07-2008, 06:44 PM   #1
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Boy can that guy stand in the pocket and take a hit. For someone who has the capability to scramble, he made several key throws (most to Welker) with the pass rush flying at him. And many times he took some tough licks and got right back up (even without a shoe!).
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:46 PM   #2
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He is Brady-like in that manner. Brady always took the hit to buy that extra second to get the ball out. Where he is not like Brady is that Brady knew when to stop when he stepped up to avoid the rush. Cassel took a few extra steps into a defender a few times today.
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He's getting nailed the same way Brady gets nailed when we start using the SAME shot-gun formation over, and over, and over, and over.

Defensive ends literally sprint upfield whenever we use this formation.
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He's also pretty good at side-arming the throw on WR screens when they are read by the edge rusher.
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Not to throw cold water on a good win - but I've noticed that on the deep bombs where he tries to hook up with a frequently open Moss, the passes are too short or too deep.

The important thing to me is that they're still calling that play and Moss' ability certainly keeps defenses honest - but that might be an issue of concern for a team if we go the route of a sign and trade, potentially limiting the number of teams that will pay big money and give up a top draft pick for him as well.

But I think even the most critical GM would have to recognize that Rome wasn't built in a day and that such an area will improve with experience - and the main thing they'd be looking for is whether a QB has the cahones to lead a team march down the field and win a game when they must.

I'd say the answer to that question is yes.
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He's getting nailed the same way Brady gets nailed when we start using the SAME shot-gun formation over, and over, and over, and over.

Defensive ends literally sprint upfield whenever we use this formation.
But that's why that delayed hand off works so well.
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But that's why that delayed hand off works so well.
A few delayed handoffs that get an extra 1.5 yards per rush isn't worth the TONS of extra hits that Brady and Cassel take out of this formation. Defensive ends must love it whenever they see us line up in this formation, which was about 3/4 of the time in the second half of this game.
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A few delayed handoffs that get an extra 1.5 yards per rush isn't worth the TONS of extra hits that Brady and Cassel take out of this formation. Defensive ends must love it whenever they see us line up in this formation, which was about 3/4 of the time in the second half of this game.
I don't know but I've seen those plays pick up some critical third down conversions.
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Not to throw cold water on a good win - but I've noticed that on the deep bombs where he tries to hook up with a frequently open Moss, the passes are too short or too deep.
His deep ball is awful, he can throw it as he's connected on a few (Moss in SF, Gaffney's drop in Indy) but in general they're bad. It would seem to be coachable, though, as he has the arm to do it.
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He's getting nailed the same way Brady gets nailed when we start using the SAME shot-gun formation over, and over, and over, and over.

Defensive ends literally sprint upfield whenever we use this formation.
Give it a rest. 40 posts and threads on the same topic. You're the new NEM.
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