Butler & Saints working towards finalizing a deal (Thread now UFC Pats Fans Event)

He's getting paid by NO or NE.

He's definetely gone. I hope they get more than 32 for him.

If he is indeed leaving, hopefully that means the Saints were desperate enough to present him with an offer sheet...

I'm firmly in the camp of #11, or kick rocks NO. I wanna see this man playing on the other side of Gilmore.

No idea but I would assume if nothing changed, he was signing with the Patriots for more money.

I think this confirms Butler is getting no big extension from anyone this year and he will play in NE on his tender. Player social media stuff is ALWAYS wrong.

patfanken said:

That's possible I guess. I can only go by past situations (like the Giants/Steeler game). IIRC the Pats had been in conflict with the league for a while before spygate, but nothing happened UNTIL the Jets actually filed a complaint.

I could be wrong, but I see this as being a classic "much ado about nothing" scenario, UNLESS one of the 3 parties involved file a complaint against someone.

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Do you really think BB and Payton would take the risk of breaking a rule no just hope no one says anything? They are smarter than that.
Remember BB is on record saying you cannot do it. We won 2 SBs since the last witch hunt. You dont think goodell is lying in wait?
And even if the standard is a team making a complaint you have Baltimore, Indy and the jets hoping they can lodge one.

AndyJohnson said:

Do you really think BB and Payton would take the risk of breaking a rule no just hope no one says anything? They are smarter than that.
Remember BB is on record saying you cannot do it. We won 2 SBs since the last witch hunt. You dont think goodell is lying in wait?
And even if the standard is a team making a complaint you have Baltimore, Indy and the jets hoping they can lodge one.

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I am hoping we can stop talking about all this stupid who know what and when crap as soon as we find out what Butler's post is about.

AndyJohnson said:

Do you really think BB and Payton would take the risk of breaking a rule no just hope no one says anything?

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Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

QuantumMechanic said:

Don't worry -- I will! BTW, could you remind us all how you ended up being more connected to what's going on than every single one of the sportswriters who have discussed the situation? Even Florio, who you love to point at on this, said in one of the very articles you keep quoting that some illegal "winking and nodding" will need to take place to finalize things before Butler signs his tender and is traded, assuming a trade happens.

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Cuz sports writers opinions are never wrong.

XLIX said:

Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks?

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It was SPECULATED. Show me any who actually say they know it happened and then your point makes sense. As of now you are not even appealing to authority you are appealing to guesses.

XLIX said:

Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

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So I guess you conclude that Brady was guilty on deflaregate since so many people on the media said he had to have done it.

AndyJohnson said:

It was SPECULATED. Show me any who actually say they know it happened and then your point makes sense. As of now you are not even appealing to authority you are appealing to guesses.

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You know, I noticed you always weasel your way out of actually answering the question when it is asked of you, so I ask again:

Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

Please have the fortitude to actually answer the actual question being asked before deflecting in your usual manner.

Please god make it stop.

AndyJohnson said:

So I guess you conclude that Brady was guilty on deflaregate since so many people on the media said he had to have done it.

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Don't be ridiculous. Just as many media members say he didn't do it, so that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy on your behalf.

(I am not surprised you can't understand that point though)

By the way, do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

XLIX said:

You know, I noticed you always weasel your way out of actually answering the question when it is asked of you, so I ask again:

Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

Please have the fortitude to actually answer the actual question being asked before deflecting in your usual manner.

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I have answered that a dozen times.

Butler is not under contract so BB can not have trade discussions about him. Iron clad. Done. Over.
If you want to think BB will risk being suspended over something this foolish when he is on record saying he knows it is against the rules then deal with your own ignorance. Of course that would mean Payton who already was suspended for a year is doing it too.

These guys care nothing about their careers all they care about is breaking a rule that there is absolutely nothing to gain by breaking. Ok gotcha.

AndyJohnson said:

I have answered that a dozen times.

Butler is not under contract so BB can not have trade discussions about him. Iron clad. Done. Over.

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See, you have still weaseled your way out of answering the question in your typical, gutless fashion. I will try again:

Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

XLIX said:

Don't be ridiculous. Just as many media members say he didn't do it, so that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy on your behalf.

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He was 100% convicted at the beginning. When they knew nothing.
Just as they are at the beginning of this issue when they know nothing.
Totally parallel examples.

(I am not surprised you can't understand that point though)

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Maybe after I explained it to you now you will y sersrand it too. But you will lie and disagree.

By the way, do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

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Show me a single media member who can say it is a fact.
Otherwise of course it didn't happen because 2 people with everything to lose by breaking a rule wouldn't break it when they have nothing to gain.

XLIX said:

See, you have still weaseled your way out of answering the question in your typical, gutless fashion. I will try again:

Do you really think that all this trade talk is all completely made up by multiple, independent media sources and that Butler's name never ever came up in any way, shape or form whatsoever over the past 2 weeks between the 2 teams?

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I have answered a dozen times.
It didn't happen. Again you keep refusing to answer where the sole single report is that states it happened not that it is speculated.
At this point I have to conclude you are just not intelligent enough to understand this.

AndyJohnson said:

He was 100% convicted at the beginning.

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I am not here to argue deflategate, but you are either lying or clueless - I can't tell which since you are both so dishonest and so ignorant regarding a great many things.

AndyJohnson said:

It was SPECULATED. Show me any who actually say they know it happened and then your point makes sense. As of now you are not even appealing to authority you are appealing to guesses.

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