Who needs Mankins?

[JoeSixPat]

That could be true but the Pats are generating plenty of offense with Mankins at home sitting on his fat behind and watching football on his flatscreen instead of playing it. I'm not sure we could even get anything valuable for him at this point. Who else is still holding out? Agents really suck ass. The more the Pats continue to succeed offensively, the more this hurts Mankins bargaining power which is virtually nil right now.

I'd think they're lamenting turnin down the $7 mil per season offer (if indeed the reports of that are correct.) Once they made that move and the Pats weren't going to budge holding out made sense... no sense in risking injury at $1.6 million.

He'll report when he absolutely must barring him and his agent giving up some ground.

Unfortunately for Mankins, if a lockout happens he's looking at trying to negotiate a better contract than the one offered at age 28 at the age of 30 when then new CBA would likely be more Owner-Friendly.

Taking the savings and extending Moss now makes little sense... Moss has every incentive to have a monster season WITHOUT a contract extension... and Kraft and Belichick have little incentive to give him a big signing bonus now, effectively paying him for a 2011 season that might not be played.

For a younger guy like Brady (aka the Franchise) you have no problem doing that (and Brady's contract, despite the big 2010 payout, is still considered Team-Friendly)

For a guy like Moss, where there's no real incentive to pay now, you hold off and see what happens with the CBA and the 2011 season and let the chips fall where they may.

It could well be that the next season of football is 2012, when Moss is 35.

What Moss is worth at 35 even on the open market with competition from other teams is probably a lot less than what he'd be expecting in a contract extension in 2010 at age 33.

Sucks for Moss but the wise move for the team is to hold off, give Moss the biggest incentive to have a monster 2010, and see what the market requires for him for 2012. Paying him for a 2011 season that might never happen and removing his incentive to play hard now is a lose lose proposition for the Patriots.

The only upside is paying him now to secure his services now for 2012 and beyond when he'll be 35, 36... 37 - and that's not a huge upside.

 

[Off The Grid]

He's a great player but the Patriots understand that guards can be coached up and aren't worth the premium salaries.

I Respectfully Disagree.

 

[Off The Grid]

And then there's this ... Reiss: How Connolly stepped to the 4

Excellent choice, sir.

Anytime I can improve my understanding, at the knee of Coach Bill Belichick, Genius and MadMan, I will gratefully embrace the Opportunity.

Great play on words by Reiss, by the way!!

 

[Off The Grid]

What would you get for him though, they've shown this year that they don't need him and Mankins has shown to be stubborn and is willing to sit out. Guards just aren't all that valuable

AWFULL post.

 

[Off The Grid]

I'd think they're lamenting turnin down the $7 mil per season offer (if indeed the reports of that are correct.) Once they made that move and the Pats weren't going to budge holding out made sense... no sense in risking injury at $1.6 million.

He'll report when he absolutely must barring him and his agent giving up some ground.

Unfortunately for Mankins, if a lockout happens he's looking at trying to negotiate a better contract than the one offered at age 28 at the age of 30 when then new CBA would likely be more Owner-Friendly.

Taking the savings and extending Moss now makes little sense... Moss has every incentive to have a monster season WITHOUT a contract extension... and Kraft and Belichick have little incentive to give him a big signing bonus now, effectively paying him for a 2011 season that might not be played.

For a younger guy like Brady (aka the Franchise) you have no problem doing that (and Brady's contract, despite the big 2010 payout, is still considered Team-Friendly)

For a guy like Moss, where there's no real incentive to pay now, you hold off and see what happens with the CBA and the 2011 season and let the chips fall where they may.

It could well be that the next season of football is 2012, when Moss is 35.

What Moss is worth at 35 even on the open market with competition from other teams is probably a lot less than what he'd be expecting in a contract extension in 2010 at age 33.

Sucks for Moss but the wise move for the team is to hold off, give Moss the biggest incentive to have a monster 2010, and see what the market requires for him for 2012. Paying him for a 2011 season that might never happen and removing his incentive to play hard now is a lose lose proposition for the Patriots.

The only upside is paying him now to secure his services now for 2012 and beyond when he'll be 35, 36... 37 - and that's not a huge upside.

HA!!

BEAUTIFULLY put, Brother Joe.

As usual.