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    I think that our "sweet white warrior of touchdown goodness" has shown that he's recovered from his injuries. [Fact: Welker has already earned more than 50% of the yards he had all of last year.]

    Assuming [knock on wood] that he stays healthy, what would you offer Welker to procure his services for 2012 and beyond?
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    Every defensive player's contract.
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    Depends....if you go by market standards and Wes has a monster year like in 09(which he is well on pace) and consider his performance since 07....that little beast could ask for alot. I doubt he will though. I think it's far more important for him to stay in NE with Tommy.
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    While I appreciate the sentiment, I'm looking for actual numbers. After all, I don't think "first born" is acceptable compensation in NFL contracts. ;)
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    3 year 18 million; 12 million guaranteed.


    I could see it going up to 4 year 27 million range. He's an irreplaceable figure in the offense and a true example of work ethic. He is very trusted by Brady.
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    Hard to disagree with a 3 year deal.

    Somewhere up to the 10 million range would be fair, I think.
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    5 yers 48 million with 22 million guaranteed
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    3 years 21million? 15 guaranteed.

    too low?
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    That was my initial thought.
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    I like this summation here. I think thats reasonable and he definately deserves it. This is guy has shown season after season that he's the real deal everytime he hits the field.

    Welker has everything that sums the "patriot way" up. Team player, hard worker, shows up each game and not afraid to use competitive sarcasm (reference "good little foot soldier") when the time calls.
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    3 at 21, 21 guaranteed.
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    He will be 31 so a 3 yr contract will put him at 34 in the market. He will want a 4 yr contract for sure .


    So i put this a few threads before

    4 yr /12 yr contract with 6 million signing bonus.
    Cheifs,Rams and even the jets will make a play for him with a few more bucks.
    but if we offer now he will be all set.

    He now has 470 yds guys and in 13 more games will have close to 1100yds
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    I think while the 3 year deals sound like a low risk slam dunk for the organization, it will take a 4 year deal to get it done. I'll say 4 years $25M with $15M guaranteed with $3M more available in incentives. Wouldn't dicker if they countered with 5 years $30M with $18M guaranteed plus $4M in incentives. Tommy is currently signed thru 2014 and I have always contended this is not his to retirement deal. He and the team will look to do another 3-4 year extension before 2014 that will become his to retirement deal. It will help for him to know they retained his favorite WR's thru his present deal and to have his safety net slot receiver under contract heading into his retirement deal.

    That is why I can also see them signing a 2-3 year extension with Branch for $3+ AAV - say 3 years $10M with incentives that could earn him another $2M with $6M guaranteed. He got his big deal in Seattle, and he wants to finish his career in comfort with Tommy.

    The fact that neither of them is under contract beyond 2011 (while the #3 WR is signed through 2013) is something the team really needs to address...
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    He relies more on quickness than speed and is already on the "same page" with Brady. He is tough as nails with hands like glue and knows the system cold.

    Whatever it takes for a 3 year deal.....whatever it takes....
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    How about $24 million dollars along with all the booze and hookers he wants on road trips?
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    I don't know about the numbers, however a three year deal would be my preference too.
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    if the OP really wants serious numbers, find out and post Welker's most recent contract numbers, and also recent contract numbers for other WR's in the league, preferably slot wr's, but definitely top 20 wr's in the league money


    my initial thoughts are 5-7 mil a year, if memory serves, hes making about 3mil a year right now no? almost doubling would hopefully get it done
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    Some other contracts to compare keeping in mind Welker will be 31 in May:

    Larry Fitzgerald (28) 8/120 47G
    Santonio Holmes (27) 5/50 with 24 guaranteed
    Santana Moss (32) 3/15 with 6 g
    Brad Smith (27) 4/15
    Vincent Jackson 1/11.9 franchise
    Steve Smith (26 Giants) 1/4 2G
    Malcomb Floyd (29) 2/5
    Lance Moore (28) 5/20 7G and would reach 22 with incentives

    Although older than Jackson or Holmes I'd say he's more valuable and consistent. Teams however fall in love with outside size and speed so the money for a smaller slot guy might not be there. The intangibles, leadership and character that Welker brings is off the charts and the other two are risks at best. I think teams may also look at Welker and think about Branch and say he won't be the same player minus Tom Brady.

    Throwing it all together I'd say it will be something like 4/28-32 with 10-14 guaranteed. That won't be the initial offer and hopefully Wes wants to stay like he's publicly stated.

    I think you also have to factor in one of these teams with loads of cap room getting involved. KC, Tampa, etc. I wish they would just get it done now and not take the chance of losing him.
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    In all seriousness 5-6 mil
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    Can't be a 3 year deal. Slot WR's tend to last longer than Flankers or Split ends.

    I also think he would take a hometown discount.
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    Welker is arguably better than any wide receiver on this list outside of Fitzgerald, Vjax, and Holmes.

    so I think Welker's worth at least 6 million per. On the open market he would go for even more. So you have to adjust the contract for that. Hopefully he'd take 4/28. anything less would be a bargain imo. The bonus money will be a negotiating point as well but I have no doubt he's getting double digit millions in bonus money.
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    I don't want to talk numbers. I would say he deserves high second tier money. Eventhough he leads the league in yards right now, I don't see him as an elite WR. He deserves the top of the next tier after the Larry Fitzgeralds of the world.
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    I am all but certain they will, if necessary, put the franchise tag on him until they can get a deal done.
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    4 years 36 million, 20 million guaranteed. His value is going up by the week.
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    Prefer to see him with a Lombardi...
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    He's got all the bargaining power right now. He's on pace to shatter the receptions record and there are probably 5 teams right now that will give him top dollar imo knowing he would improve their QB and team after the first practice.

    It's all on Welker right now. If he likes playing with Tom and thinks he would be better suited to stay here than that's what he will do. If he wants big money he is going to get it,if not with us,with someone else.

    Btw, What happened to all the believers that Julian Edelman was the next Wes Welker?
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