What do the Mock Drafts think the Pats are going to do at #21?

[JoeSixPat]

Interesting to see what the various mock drafts are predicting the Pats do - DeAngelo Williams looks like the popular choice but there are some other surprising picks as well.

Most of these Mock Drafts are fairly recent - feel free to add any other mocks I may have missed but it looks like most are expecting us to take DeAngelo Williams


DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis

http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/mock2006.html
http://www.draftnotebook.com/draft_projection.htm
http://www.draftace.com/draft2006/mockdraftroundone.htm
http://www.nflgurus.com/mock.html
http://www.draftboardinsider.com/mock/2006.html
http://www.draftking.com/nfl/2006/mockdraft.shtml
http://www.draftstudio.com/mock.htm
http://www.thefootballexpert.com/abromowitzmockdraft.html
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Lendale White, RB, USC

http://www.condraft.com/mock.php?r=1
http://huddlegeeks.com/NFL_Draft/2006/mock2006.htm
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/don_banks/03/14/mock.draft3.part3/index.html

Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
http://www.nflreport.com/mock1.htm
http://www.football.com/draft/2006/mccollom_mock_draft.shtml

Laurence Maroney, RB, Minn.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/index.cfm?page=3

Ashton Youboty CB, Ohio State
http://www.draftgurus.com/page1.html

Chad Greenway, LB, Iowa
http://www.draftdaddy.com/MD/MDstat.cfm

Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio St.
http://www.insidetheeagles.com/2006mockdraft.htm

Manny Lawson, LB, NC State
http://www.gbnreport.com/2006projection.html

Bobby Carpenter, LB, Ohio State
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5449624

 

[BelichickFan]

This RB thing is just ridiculous.

Right now I see a small trade up for Chad Jackson as the #1 option if he gets within range. Otherwise Bobby Carpenter.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

This RB thing is just ridiculous.

Right now I see a small trade up for Chad Jackson as the #1 option if he gets within range. Otherwise Bobby Carpenter.

Why is Chad Greenways stock dropping? Or is it that Carpenter is getting better as a player? What is the difference between the two?

 

[JoeSixPat]

This RB thing is just ridiculous.

I agree - not that I'd be shocked if they took an RB in the first round, but I think the knee jerk reaction of those who make up these mocks is that RB is the most obvious need.

It is, or will be a need, but that doesn't translate into what BB & SP will deem the best pick with the best value at #21 (and again, I'm predicting a deal with the Falcons to move up to #15)

 

[stevedogc]

I was wondering the same thing. I remember Greenway having a very big senior bowl and practices leading up to it. I asked the same question on another thread and someone said he had a bad combine and pro day.

Why is Chad Greenways stock dropping? Or is it that Carpenter is getting better as a player? What is the difference between the two?

 

[BelichickFan]

Why is Chad Greenways stock dropping? Or is it that Carpenter is getting better as a player? What is the difference between the two?

I like Greenway too. But my gut feeling is the Patriots like Carpenter. From what I've seen/read, Carpenter is the more physical, the more pure football player. He'll whack a TE at the line, has excellent speed and is only 10 pounds or so lighter than McGinest was when he was drafted. His Dad was an NFL player and you know how Belichick likes that kind of thing. Greenway is the better athlete, more natural and experienced in pass coverage and could have the higher upside. Capenter just reminds me of Bruschi in that you know he's just a guy who was born to play football.

After thinking about it for a while, my gut feeling is Belichick likes Capenter a little more than Greenway despite Carpenter having maybe a little less upside athletically. We'll get an indepth report on both, though, with Greenway playing for Belichick pal Kirk Ferentz and Carpenter being close to, and working out with, Mike Vrabel.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

I like Greenway too. But my gut feeling is the Patriots like Carpenter. From what I've seen/read, Carpenter is the more physical, the more pure football player. He'll whack a TE at the line, has excellent speed and is only 10 pounds or so lighter than McGinest was when he was drafted. His Dad was an NFL player and you know how Belichick likes that kind of thing. Greenway is the better athlete, more natural and experienced in pass coverage and could have the higher upside. Capenter just reminds me of Bruschi in that you know he's just a guy who was born to play football.

After thinking about it for a while, my gut feeling is Belichick likes Capenter a little more than Greenway despite Carpenter having maybe a little less upside athletically. We'll get an indepth report on both, though, with Greenway playing for Belichick pal Kirk Ferentz and Carpenter being close to, and working out with, Mike Vrabel.

Great analysis!

 

[BelichickFan]

Great analysis!

Not sure I'd say that but I have been thinking about it a lot because I'm convinced we'll take Greenway, Carpenter or Lawson unless we can get Chad Jackson.

I look at Carpenter as the most Patriot type linebacker, kind of a cross between McGinnest and Brushi.

With Greenway you get the athleticism, the pass coverage and upside.

And Lawson, I see another Roosevelt Colvin. We'd lose some physicality on that side from McGinest but having Colvin and Lawson on the edges is very intriguing indeed.

Unless we simply don't like these guys, or someone falls who shouldn't (see : Wilfork, Vince), the pick has to be out of these three and Jackson.

I see some mention of DeMeco Ryans and he has the character for the Patriots but he's a little small and doesn't have size potential (he weighs 240 like Lawson but Ryans is 6'1", Lawson is 6'5"). That's the thing about Lawson, he's super quick and strong but also has size potential up to McGinest even though he's 30 pounds lighter right now.

 

[Feep_FLA]

Bobby Carpenter is our #21 pick. Bank on it! :rocker:

 

[SeanBruschi54]

Not sure I'd say that but I have been thinking about it a lot because I'm convinced we'll take Greenway, Carpenter or Lawson unless we can get Chad Jackson.

I look at Carpenter as the most Patriot type linebacker, kind of a cross between McGinnest and Brushi.

With Greenway you get the athleticism, the pass coverage and upside.

And Lawson, I see another Roosevelt Colvin. We'd lose some physicality on that side from McGinest but having Colvin and Lawson on the edges is very intriguing indeed.

Unless we simply don't like these guys, or someone falls who shouldn't (see : Wilfork, Vince), the pick has to be out of these three and Jackson.

I see some mention of DeMeco Ryans and he has the character for the Patriots but he's a little small and doesn't have size potential (he weighs 240 like Lawson but Ryans is 6'1", Lawson is 6'5"). That's the thing about Lawson, he's super quick and strong but also has size potential up to McGinest even though he's 30 pounds lighter right now.

The only thing that bothers me about Greenway is his leg injury that he had surgery on.

 

[BelichickFan]

The only thing that bothers me about Greenway is his leg injury that he had surgery on.

He's also just not very tough tackling or taking on blockers. The good thing about that is it's not a physical limitation so it could probably be improved upon.

 

[AzPatsFan]

This RB thing is just ridiculous.

Right now I see a small trade up for Chad Jackson as the #1 option if he gets within range. Otherwise Bobby Carpenter.

That would be a good guess,but Bobby Grier doesn't work here anymore. cahd "Tony Simmons" Jackson can sure run fast. There are a few other requirements though.

 

[BelichickFan]

That would be a good guess,but Bobby Grier doesn't work here anymore. Chad "Tony Simmons" Jackson can sure run fast. There are a few other requirements though.

I guess we'll see - I think Jackson will not prove to be the next Tony Simmons. More like the next Javon Walker IMO.

 

[SeanBruschi54]

He's also just not very tough tackling or taking on blockers. The good thing about that is it's not a physical limitation so it could probably be improved upon.

I'd rather have a sure thing tackler that can learn a system rather than teach a guy to get off of blocks and tackle better.

 

[stinkypete]

Forget Chad Jackson, or Santonio Holmes or Sinorice Moss for that matter. With Ben Watson ready to emerge, our #2 WR is going to be the 3rd option in the passing game. A team that suddenly has several holes is not going to spend a 1st round pick on a 3rd oprion receiver, especially in a draft that is tremendously deep at linebacker, defensive line ane defensive back.

 

[BelichickFan]

Forget Chad Jackson, or Santonio Holmes or Sinorice Moss for that matter. With Ben Watson ready to emerge, our #2 WR is going to be the 3rd option in the passing game.

We'll see. Watson had trouble reading coverages the same as Brady, I know it was just his second year and first on the field but still. Also Brady hasn't shown the same love Bledsoe had for going to the TE. You may be right but I'm not buying it just yet.

 

[sarge]

This RB thing is just ridiculous.

Right now I see a small trade up for Chad Jackson as the #1 option if he gets within range. Otherwise Bobby Carpenter.

You do remember that there were times last year where our lead backs were Heath Evans and Mike Cloud with Amos Zeroue as the backup?

Not that I think it is a sure thing they draft RB in the first (I personally am hoping for Maurice Drew in the second), but it is a glaring weakness!

 

[BelichickFan]

You do remember that there were times last year where our lead backs were Heath Evans and Mike Cloud with Amos Zeroue as the backup?

Not that I think it is a sure thing they draft RB in the first (I personally am hoping for Maurice Drew in the second), but it is a glaring weakness!

And what is wrong with those three ?

The problem is we usually have, what, 3 RB ? Dillon, Faulk and Pass. The first two are staying as will either Pass or Evans. What I would like is to draft a guy and go with an extra RB. I would go with just 5 CB (despite what happened the last two years) as Hawkins can legitimitely be our #6 CB in an emergency.

Drew would be a rock solid shot, someone with potential at RB who can also help on kick returns. But I'm not excited about a RB in round 1 unless they love Maroney.

 

[Newtonian]

I wonder if the Pats also have their eyes on Kamerion Wembley if he's available at #21. Cromartie would be an interesting pick if they could get him in the 2nd round, if they're willing to take the injury risk based on his upside; I think they brought him in for a look-see. I don't see the Pats going RB or WR until the 3rd round. If they used some of their extra picks to move up a bit, a draft haul of Wembley/Cromartie/Haas or Stovall or Jennings/Addai or Drew, would be great. RBs are going to get pushed waaaaaay down; Colts are lucky that's the case.

 

[BelichickFan]

I wonder if the Pats also have their eyes on Kamerion Wembley if he's available at #21.

I've been ignoring him because the talk now is he'll go from #12 to #20, with a strong chance of going @ #12 to Cleveland. That's not to say it'll actually happen but that's why I haven't paid as much attention to him.